Goes Without Saying

Allison Hadley and Lucas Herren recap celebrity Halloween costumes, start a Glee binge, and catch up on Real Housewives of New York, Salt Lake City, and The Golden Life.

They’re best friends who finish each other’s sentences, which is great for friendship and terrible for a podcast. This week they tell the story of a 15-minute argument at Disney World’s California Grill, when they were each talking about a different woman at the bar. They also debate the “two beers and a puppy” test for judging someone’s character, argue over whether Glee holds up, and share opinions on RHONY’s private island drama and the stolen flowers at a Salt Lake City lunch.

In this episode:

• Celebrity Halloween costumes, including Lisa Rinna as Kylie Jenner
• The California Grill celebrity lookalike mix-up
• Their Glee highlights binge: Sue Sylvester, Rachel Berry, and teenage pregnancy
• The “two beers and a puppy” litmus test
• Real Housewives of New York City, Salt Lake City, and The Golden Life
• A preview of Lucas’s Disney World trip with his grandma

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Allison Hadley and Lucas Herren debate the Verity movie (Team Letter vs. Team Manuscript), break down the Elizabeth Holmes documentary You Can See Everything, and react to The Golden Life, the new E! show with the original Real Housewives of New York stars.

This week was heavy on movies and chaos. They disagree on how much the Theranos investors should have asked, and they land on the same side of the Verity debate when neither expected to. Along the way: Drake’s 40th birthday, a mail-in stool test, and what each of them would get arrested for.

Spoiler warning: the Verity discussion covers the full plot and ending.

In this episode:

• Verity movie: Team Letter vs. Team Manuscript, and why Jeremy is the villain either way
• You Can See Everything, the Elizabeth Holmes documentary with Nathan Fielder, and Billy Evans
• The Golden Life premiere on E! with Ramona, Luann, Sonja, Kelly, and Dorinda
• Drake’s 40th birthday party, cape and Backstreet Boys included
• Friend-group conversations: Cologuard, hemorrhoid myths, and who would win a fight
• Dancing with the Stars: double elimination preview

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In the first episode of Goes Without Saying, best friends Allison Hadley and Lucas Herren talk about Hot Shrek (aka monster romance), the Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip, and why they think Dancing with the Stars scoring is broken.

They also recap their Disney World trip, debate You've Got Mail vs. When Harry Met Sally, pick sides in Gilmore Girls Team Jess vs. Team Logan, and share their fall movie watch list.

In this episode:

- Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip verdict
- Dancing with the Stars scoring, voting, and unpopular opinions
- Rom-coms: You've Got Mail vs. When Harry Met Sally
- Spicy books and monster romance
- Disney World trip recap
- Gilmore Girls: Team Jess or Team Logan?

New episodes every Sunday. Follow @goeswithoutsayingpod on Instagram and TikTok.