Former screen writer, author and professional therapist, Phil Stark joins Cristina and Ilana to chat about his practice and how we can all WIN at couples therapy and life! Cristina will cry watching your child perform. Ilana just learned the term "doorknob confessions" and now can not stop giving them. We love pets, if you don't are you a sociopath? Asking for a free world leader.

Hit us up with your quirks! [email protected]!

Shoutouts: Alexis Roland, Diptyque

Endorsements: WALKING! Get out and get exercise, absorb that vitamin D, and listen to podcasts (we have recs), Delightful Olfactory Scents, How to Win at Couple's Therapy by guest Phil Stark.

Click to Follow on IG: That's So Mental , Ilana Cohn Sullivan, Cristina Fernandez. Check out Phil's other book, "Dude Where's My Car-tharsis."

MORE TSM: That's So Mental FB, TikTok, TSM YouTube

We'd love to hear about your mental health journey, DM us or email at [email protected].

Thank you to our producer and sound engineer, Elizabeth Baquet and everyone at Ninth Planet Audio.

Theme song created by Mike Costantini.

Special Thanks to Dave Kneebone at AbsoLutely. 

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