Going Somewhere

In this episode, Stephen reflects on a season when God reshaped how he viewed work, calling, and everyday life. Together with Megan, he explores what it means to see all of life as worship, break the myth of sacred vs. secular, and embrace your ordinary with purpose.

Key Takeaways:

1. Redefining worship (Romans 12:1)
2. The myth of sacred vs. secular
3. Work and college are not a means to an end
4. Faithful with little → entrusted with much (Luke 16:10)
5. Presence and gratitude in the mundane
6. Building trust and influence through excellence
7. Made for work — God’s original design (Garden City by John Mark Comer)

Reflection Questions:

• Where am I tempted to see school or work as a distraction instead of a divine opportunity?
• How does Romans 12:1 redefine worship in my daily life?
• Where might God be asking me to embrace my ordinary and be faithful with little?
• How could I reframe work or school from “means to an end” to “gift to steward now”?
• Who in my everyday environment might I influence more deeply if I were fully present?

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Recently, I had the surreal experience of watching my friend Carson Wentz run out of the tunnel as the starting quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings — the very team he grew up cheering for as a kid in North Dakota. It was a full-circle moment that sparked something in me about dreams, detours, and God’s greater purpose.

In this episode, I share that story, reflect on Proverbs 19:21, and Megan and I invite you to consider the dreams or plans in your life that haven’t turned out the way you hoped. What if God is still at work, just in a different way than you imagined?

Here are four practical handles when your plans don’t line up:

1. Name the grief, don’t just bury it
2. Look for God’s faithfulness in the detours
3. Hold your plans with open hands
4. Take the next faithful step

Plans change. God’s purpose always prevails.

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Bill and Kristi Gaultiere have spent over 30 years counseling and ministering to people as a psychologist–therapist duo. They are the founders of Soul Shepherding, co-hosts of the Soul Talks podcast, and authors of several books including Journey of the Soul and Healthy Feelings, Thriving Faith. Kristi also joined us back on Episode 40, and today she and Bill return to share insights from their brand-new book Deeply Loved.

In this conversation, we dive into the power of empathy — why empathy is like oxygen for the soul, how to receive God’s empathy for us, and what it looks like to extend empathy to others. Bill and Kristi help us explore the biblical model of empathy, unpack why so many of us suppress emotions and keep God or people at a distance, and offer practical steps to break through those barriers. They also introduce the “Four A’s of Empathy”:

1. Ask Questions
2. Attune to Emotions
3. Acknowledge the Significance
4. Affirm Strengths

If you long for deeper connection with God and others, this episode will encourage and equip you to live more deeply loved.

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Prayer isn’t always polished — and it was never meant to be. David, called a man after God’s own heart, showed us what raw, honest prayer looks like in the Psalms. He brought every emotion to God — fear, joy, guilt, shame, anger, hope, and more. (If you want an example, read the story of David hiding in a cave in 1 Samuel 22 alongside Psalm 142.)

In this episode, Stephen and Megan explore what Christian counselor Chip Dodd calls the Voice of the Heart — 8 core emotions that every one of us experiences. Each emotion signals something deeper, and when we bring them to God, they can become starting points for unfiltered prayer.

We’ll unpack each one with a definition, reflection questions, and a simple prayer:

1. Hurt → Signal: Something meaningful was damaged | Prayer: God, this still hurts. Meet me in it.
2. Lonely → Signal: I was made for connection | Prayer: God, remind me I’m not alone.
3. Sad → Signal: I’ve lost something that mattered | Prayer: God, be near in the ache.
4. Angry → Signal: Something isn’t right | Prayer: God, help me release what I can’t fix.
5. Fearful → Signal: I feel vulnerable or unsafe | Prayer: God, be my refuge and strength.
6. Guilty → Signal: I’ve done something wrong | Prayer: God, I confess — give me Your grace.
7. Shame → Signal: I feel unworthy | Prayer: God, speak truth over my identity.
8. Glad → Signal: This is what I was made for | Prayer: God, thank You for this good moment.

Whether you’re feeling joy or pain, grief or gratitude, remember this: if it’s in your heart, it belongs in your prayers.

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Some of the most important lessons we learn in college don’t come from textbooks—they come from life. In Part 2 of this two-part conversation, Stephen and Megan continue reflecting on their own college years and share more truths that still matter today. Whether you’re a student heading back to campus or years removed from dorm life, these lessons will help you live with purpose in every season.

Here’s the full list of 10 lessons we cover across both episodes:

1. Follow Jesus, Not Your Dreams
2. Build His Kingdom, Not Your Resume
3. Reframe FOMO
4. Respect Your Limits
5. Surrender Your Plans to God’s Purpose
6. Pursue Godly Community, Not Just Convenient Friends
7. Seek Out Mentors, Don’t Wait for Them
8. Don’t Wait to Start Living (YOLO, No Mulligans)
9. Don’t Obsess Over “Finding the One”
10. Stop Comparing and Run Your Race

If you missed Part 1, be sure to go back and listen to get the full conversation. And we’d love to hear from you: What’s one lesson college taught you that still matters today? Share it with us on Instagram (@goingsomewhere.podcast)—we may feature your story in the future!

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College is full of experiences, challenges, and lessons that stick with us long after graduation. In this episode, Stephen and Megan look back on their own college years and share the life-shaping truths they learned then that still matter today. Whether you’re a student heading into a new semester or years removed from campus, these lessons will help you live with purpose right where you are.

Here are the first five lessons we unpack in Part 1:

1. Follow Jesus, Not Your Dreams
2. Build His Kingdom, Not Your Resume
3. Reframe FOMO
4. Respect Your Limits
5. Surrender Your Plans to God’s Purpose

And we’re not done yet—next week we’ll continue with Part 2 and five more lessons that shaped us during our college days.

We’d love to hear from you: What’s one lesson college taught you that still matters today? Share it with us on Instagram (@goingsomewhere.podcast), and we may even feature your response in next week’s episode!

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Pausing to reflect may be the most important rhythm you can build into your life. In this episode, Stephen and Megan talk about why creating space for reflection matters and share three key benefits you’ll experience when you make it part of your month: clarity, growth, and peace. Together, they cast vision for the power of the pause and encourage you to slow down long enough to notice where you’ve been and where you’re going.

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A new season demands a new rhythm. In this episode, Stephen and Megan sit down to revisit their Growth Plans and talk about what it looks like to reset as summer turns into fall. Stephen shares from his perspective of stepping into a new job and new season of writing, speaking, and resource development, while Megan reflects on the natural seasonal shift that makes this the perfect time to pause and reevaluate. Together, they walk through their own Growth Plans — covering current realities, envisioned futures, and priorities for the months ahead—while encouraging you to do the same.

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In this episode, Stephen and Megan get real about discipline — why it’s so hard, why it’s worth it, and how to keep going when every part of you wants to quit. From Stephen’s unexpected running journey (inspired by a roast from Paul Hurckman and the birth of the I Hate Running Club) to Megan’s honest reflections on her 2024 goals, they unpack the struggles, victories, and lessons learned along the way.

You’ll be reminded that every action you take is a vote for the type of person you want to become — and those votes add up. You’ll hear stories of accountability that actually works and a simple challenge to help you start small, show up, and stick with it — even when you don’t feel like it.

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In this episode, we’re joined by Hannah Aberle, the Kids Ministry Assistant at Northview Church. She previously interned with Megan under Stephen’s leadership and completed a second-year ministry internship as well. With a dual degree in early childhood education and art, Hannah brings creativity and depth to everything she does.

Hannah shares openly about the pain of her parents’ divorce and the difficult years that followed — including a pivotal moment when her dad didn’t show up for their final meeting before she and her mom moved from Minot to Valley City. But this isn’t just a story of brokenness. It’s a powerful testimony of how God began to soften her heart, reshape her understanding of forgiveness, and lead her toward healing. Even when nothing else changed, forgiveness opened the door to freedom — and eventually, God began restoring her relationship with her dad.

It’s a vulnerable, hope-filled conversation about faith, healing, and the grace of God.

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