Gold/Fox: Non Billable

Stephen Younger and Hon. Albert Rosenblatt join the show to talk about the Historical Society of the New York Courts and the recent webinar Lessons Learned From the 1918 Pandemic: Historical and Legal Framework of the Spanish Flu and How It Relates to Today's Crisis. 

First, they discuss how the Historical Society of the New York Courts was founded by former Chief Judge Judith Kaye in 2002. Judge Rosenblatt, who was sitting on the Court of Appeals at the time, recalls how from a small notebook with names of former Court of Appeals judges sprang the Historical Society of the New York Courts.

The conversation then turns to a discussion about the May 11 webinar and what lessons society has learned from the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic as well as some similarities and differences in how federal and state governments handled the response. They also discuss some of the legal cases stemming from the 1918 pandemic, including several from the Midwest having to do with school teachers and bus drivers not getting paid during the pandemic. 

As always the episode closes with Sarah and Michael letting their guests test their trivia knowledge. This week's topics are former NYSBA Presidents and Sherlock Holmes!

Sarah Gold and Michael Fox are back for season 2 of the Gold/Fox: Non-Billable Podcast.

No guest this week, instead, Sarah and Mike interview each other and catch up on how their lives have been impacted by the shutdown and stay-at-home orders. 

Sarah recalls her road trip across the southern United States in mid-March right as the novel coronavirus began to cause shutdowns of nonessential businesses across the country. She also talks about some of the work she does with the New York State Bar Association and how her work as a solo practitioner and professor has shifted online. 

Michael talks about his work as a professor at Mount Saint Mary's College and Columbia University, including the study abroad course's he has co-designed that has brought him to places like Australia, to study the difference in health care systems to mining towns in Pennsylvania, to study the history of workers in America. He also discusses his career transition to becoming a professor, after spending 13 years as a practicing attorney in New York City and the Hudson Valley. 

Albany County Bar Association President Dan Hurteau joins Sarah and Michael for a wide-ranging conversation about his upbringing in an upstate NY town with a population of 200, how cross country road trips with family during his youth led him to become a lawyer and how beneficial pro bono work can be for young lawyers. 

Hurteau, partner at Nixon Peabody in Albany, NY talks about his upbringing in North Bangor, NY, seven miles from the Canadian border, how multiple family cross country vacations led him to see the diversity and largess of the United States and contributed to him becoming attending law school. 

Hurteau then discusses some of the pro bono work he has done throughout his career the culture of pro bono service at Nixon Peabody was instilled in him on his first day.  

The conversation closes with a discussion about Hurteau's passion for the outdoors. From his preferred exercise choices of cross country skiing, running and bicycling, the latter being Dan's preferred choice of transportation to and from work, to his quest to become an Adirondack 46er.

As the outgoing president of the ACBA, Hurteau gives some words of wisdom for young lawyers, thinking about joining bar associations. "Get Involved, Stay Involved, Be Involved."

The Non-Billable podcast is hosted by Sarah Gold and Michael Fox.

Louise Carron, Executive Director at the Center for Art Law joins Sarah and Michael to discuss her truly unique path to the law, the work being done at the Center for Art Law and fascinating discussion about 'street art.'

Carron, a native Parisian, talks about some of her favorite exhibits in the Louvre and her recent trip to the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art.

She then goes on to describe the work being done at the  Center for Art Law - and how the need for a central database of art law information, articles, and law programs inspired her mentor to create the center.

The discussion closes with a fascinating discussion on her Street Art article, from the November 2019 NYSBA Bar Journal and about which types of street art have copyright protection, which don't and the relevant case law surrounding this topic. 

The Non-Billable podcast is hosted by NYSBA members Sarah Gold and Michael Fox.

NYSBA's 120th President (2017-18), Sharon Stern Gerstman joins Sarah and Michael to talk about her path to law, how the card game, bridge, is responsible for meeting her husband and how quitting smoking led her to take up knitting.

Gerstman, counsel at Magavern Magavern Grimm in Buffalo, recalls how her mother knew she was destined to be a lawyer at the age of 5, how a lack of maternity leave policy at a tax firm resulted in her taking a position with the New York Supreme Court in the Eighth Judicial District, where she stayed for 30 years. 

Finally, Gerstman discusses her unique hobby of knitting and how that has led her to knitting seminars, festivals, and competitions, like the New York Sheep and Wool Festival, 'Sock Madness,' 'Tour de Sock,' and 'The Canadian Crazy Train.' 

You'll never guess what country, Gerstman claims produces the fastest and best competitive knitters. 

The Non-Billable Podcast is hosted by Sarah Gold and Michael Fox.

Scott Karson, president-elect of the New York State Bar Association and partner at Lamb & Barnosky, joins Michael and Sarah to discuss how he went from a social studies student-teacher to Syracuse College of Law. 

He also talks about the time he attended a music festival in upstate New York during the summer of 1969 and the travel opportunities he and his family have had thanks to his position as a delegate to the American Bar Association.

The Non-Billable Podcast is hosted by Sarah Gold and Michael Fox.

Judge Jonah Triebwasser (Red Hook, NY) joins Michael and Sarah for a discussion about his dual duty as a Town and Village Justice, his path to the law, and his 'other career' as a Franklin D. Roosevelt historical interpreter.

The 32nd President of the United States then sits down with Michael and Sarah and recounts the 1939 visit by King George VI and Queen Elizabeth to his home in Hyde Park, NY and gives advice to today's electorate.

The Non-Billable Podcast is hosted by Sarah Gold and Michael Fox.

Leslie Stein, Associate Judge of the New York Cout of Appeals, joins Sarah and Michael to discuss how she nearly became a psychologist rather than go to law school, the day in the life of a Court of Appeals judge, and how a good meal keeps her centered.

Judge Stein shares the story of being rejected for a position at the NY State Appellate Division, Third Department early in her career, before being appointed Justice of the Third Department and serving for over 6 years. 

The Non-Billable Podcast is hosted by Sarah Gold and Michael Fox.

Dan Nolan, President & CEO of Hugh Johnson Advisors and co-owner of the Albany Empire joins Sarah and Michael to discuss how he used his law degree to carve out a niche in the business world, the advice he gives to young professionals and college students and the rich history of professional sports in Albany.

Dan shares how he became involved as an owner for the Albany Empire, the potential growth for the Arena Football League in the coming years. 

Finally, Sarah closes the episode by re-living the 2019 AFL Championship Game, which the Albany Empire won!

Kelly McNamee, an associate at Greenberg Traurig in Albany, NY joins Michael and Sarah for an in-depth conversation about her essay in the June/July NYSBA Journal and her unique path in the law. 

They also talk about Kelly's transition from working and living in Manhattan and Brooklyn to working and living in the Capital Region. They discuss the top-5 things she misses about NYC-life. 

Then in a NYSBA Podcast first, Kelly challenges NYSBA President Hank Greenberg.....to a competitive game of pool.

The Non-Billable Podcast is hosted by Sarah Gold and Michael Fox.