A cold case doesn’t stay unsolved because everyone stopped caring. Sometimes the evidence is incomplete. Sometimes the trail went cold. And sometimes the biggest clue may have been sitting in front of investigators the entire time.
Brandon Andres Green sits down with Matthew McLaughlin, producer of Cold Red Podcast, to talk about unsolved murders, behavioral profiling, victimology, and what retired FBI profilers can sometimes see when they come back to a case years later.
Cold Red is hosted by Dr. Raymond Carr and James R. Fitzgerald, both retired FBI profilers. Fitzgerald is also known for his work helping identify and capture the Unabomber through forensic linguistics.
The show originally started as a true-crime podcast featuring former law-enforcement colleagues and experts. But over time, people began reaching out directly and asking the team to look into unresolved cases.
Matthew says that changed the show.
What started as true-crime content gradually became something closer to a cold-case initiative.
One of the most interesting techniques they use is something called victimology.
Instead of beginning by trying to create a profile of the killer, Ray and Fitz first build a detailed picture of the victim. Who were they? What was happening in their life? Who had access to them? What relationships, routines, risks, or circumstances surrounded them?
Then they work outward from there.
Matthew explains that this different lens can sometimes reveal connections investigators may have overlooked.
We also get into one of the biggest misconceptions around cold cases: DNA, forensic evidence, or even what appears to be a “smoking gun” doesn’t automatically mean someone can be arrested.
Investigators may still need enough evidence to secure warrants, meet legal standards, and prove the case decades after the crime occurred.
And sometimes the reason a case stays cold is more uncomfortable.
Matthew says he has seen cases where mistakes were made early in an investigation and people later became more concerned about protecting themselves than admitting what happened. In other cases, questions about law enforcement itself become part of the investigation.
Cold Red also takes a different approach to true-crime storytelling.
Matthew says the focus is intentionally kept on victims and families rather than glorifying offenders. The team tries to avoid sensationalizing killers and instead asks whether telling the story can actually help uncover something useful.
That can become emotional very quickly.
Families may agree to discuss only the surface of what happened, then find themselves opening up much more once the interview begins.
We also talk about what happens behind the scenes when producing a show like this. Matthew writes and outlines episodes, vets guests, books interviews, works with anonymous tips, and helps determine whether someone reaching out is a legitimate witness, family member, law-enforcement source, or potentially someone connected to the crime itself.
And because these cases don’t always have endings, the podcast format creates something traditional documentaries often can’t.
They can come back.
A new witness may surface. Someone may finally be willing to talk. New evidence may emerge. And a case that seemed completely frozen can suddenly move again.
If you’re interested in cold cases, FBI profiling, victimology, true crime, forensic linguistics, or what actually happens behind an unsolved investigation, this conversation gives a very different look at how those stories are approached.
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