Final Forum: A Dragon Ball Podcast

Grandpa Gohan (S2E14)


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Is this the most emotionally charged moment in Dragon Ball history?

Jelli and Bekinney continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon by breaking down episodes 74, 75, 76 and 77, "The Mysterious Fifth Man," "The Strong Ones," "True Colors of the Masked Man," and "Pilaf's Tactics."  We continue discussing the Fortune Teller Baba mini tournament and break down the identity of the fifth fighter, Grampa Gohan, as well as his importance culturally and to the story.

In this episode:

  • Jelli is on an ant-hunt
  • We recap the episodes and discuss our favorite moments 
  • How Toriyama is subverting expectations by pivoting from Western-Themed monsters to an Eastern-inspired hermit for his fifth fighter
  • The meaning of Gohan, being cooked rice, how it's colloquially "Let's Eat" in Japan, and how Gohan comes to clash with Toriyama's Sun Wukong-inspired Monkey King
  • The importance of hermits in Eastern culture and a brief mention of the film Amongst the White Clouds
  • How Gohan has some minor parallels to Star Wars
  • An explanation of why a dead fighter needs money
  • Baba's status as an onmyoji
  • We talk about Obon, the Japanese festival built around paying homage to one's deceased ancestors, and how important it is to Buddhist culture and future characters in Dragon Ball (Enma Daio, aka King Yemma)
  • How Toriyama repurposed halos for Dragon Ball
  • Why Gohan wears a fox mask
  • An elaboration on Kitsune (fox) in Japanese and Chinese culture
  • How kitsune are similar to tanuki
  • Why Japanese culture views foxes as more benevolent than Japanese culture and how foxes became intermingled with the concept of the Shinto god Inari as well as a symbol of Shintoism itself
  • The importance of a fox fighting a monkey in Eastern culture as a clash of kitsune and saru or even Shintoism vs Buddhism
  • How foxes relate to No Theater
  • A Pokémon connection to Ninetails and Vulpix
  • A Miles "Tails" Prower reference
  • Toriyama repurposing the fox mask from Dr. Slump 
  • And we look for further examples of the importance of foxes in Japanese pop culture and get into a tangent on the film Pom Poko
  • and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual 
  • Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise.

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