In leadership, we like to believe our biggest challenges are external. Market shifts. Economic pressure. Disruption. Competition.
But what if the real friction isn’t "out there"?
On this episode of Great Mondays Radio, host Josh Levine sits down with certified executive coach Rob Wise to explore the concept of leadership saboteurs—the hidden patterns of thinking that quietly shape our behavior when we’re stressed, tired, or feeling threatened.
From the ever-present Judge to the Controller, the Hyper-Achiever, the Pleaser, and more, Rob breaks down how the very traits that fueled your success can, under pressure, start to erode trust, culture, and clarity. Together, Josh and Rob unpack the difference between judgment and discernment, reaction and response, insight and actual behavior change.
They also dig into the practical side of transformation. Why awareness alone rarely rewires behavior. Why physical interruption matters. And how a simple pause can shift you from critique to curiosity in moments that matter most.
This conversation is not about eliminating your shadow side. It’s about integrating it. Because leadership is not the absence of triggers. It’s the ability to navigate them with intention.
If you’ve ever fired off an email you regretted, defaulted to control when things felt uncertain, or called your defensiveness “high standards,” this episode will feel uncomfortably familiar—in the best possible way.
About Our Guest:
Rob Wise is a certified business and executive coach specializing in leadership development, emotional intelligence, and organizational effectiveness. Through his work with leaders and teams, Rob helps high performers identify the internal patterns that limit their impact and build the habits that unlock wiser, more grounded leadership. Learn more at Focal Point Coaching.
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