In this episode of the Green Collar Careers podcast, I sit down with Angely Mercado, independent climate journalist and Editor at Large at The SUNN. Angely has bylines in The New York Times, The Guardian, Rolling Stone, Vogue, Grist, Popular Science, and more. Her reporting blends environmental science, social justice, and culture, with a particular focus on frontline communities, extreme weather, sustainable fashion, and climate resilience.

Her career is a green pivot story. No science degree. A journalism background rooted in community reporting in the South Bronx and Brooklyn. A Grist Social Justice Climate Fellowship that gave her thevocabulary and confidence to cover the climate crisis at the highest levels ofAmerican media. And a path that has taken her from local news to some of themost important climate conversations happening anywhere.

We get into:

-Her Origin Story: From summers in the Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico - power outages, grandmother’s “Juan Bobo” stories, cousins inventing tales about anthropomorphized animals - to a week-long internship on the Clearwater sloop on the Hudson River that sparked a lifelong interest in climate science and communication.

-The COVID Pivot: Laid off on March 13, 2020.Moves back to her family in Queens. Watches neighbors being taken by ambulances. A mobile morgue visible from the neighborhood. Loses a family member and can’t attend the funeral. Gets the Grist fellowship. This is what a career pivot driven by grief and necessity actually looks like.

-Climate Touches Everything: Environmental law, public health, sustainable finance, science communication, government communications, sustainable fashion, disaster preparedness — Angely makes the case that climate is not a niche. It is the lens through which every industry is being transformed.

-The Underreported Stories: The cost-of-living crisis colliding with the climate crisis. Broken ACs, unaffordable evacuations, mold from flood damage people can’t afford to remediate. Internal climate displacement in the US, a crisis already here that we keep treating as a distant problem.

-Advice for Breaking In: Take online courses. Build your vocabulary incrementally. Support nonprofit publications. And if you have a non-science background, your skills are needed more than you know.

 -Burnout, Health, and the North Star: Angely’s hardest lesson this year was that health directly impacts the quality of your work. Her reframe: “I’m a person who works in journalism” — not “I am journalism.” The North Star is storytelling and caring about environmental justice. Journalism is just one vehicle for getting there.

-For the Climate Communicators: Scientists and experts are building social media platforms to counter misinformation. As one epidemiologist told her: “Influencers are acting like experts, so experts should act like influencers.”

If you’ve ever wondered whether writing, storytelling, or communications can be a green collar career, Angely Mercado is your answer.

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🎙️ Connect with Angely Mercado

Substack: @mediamercado

Instagram: @angely_mercado

Threads: @angely_mercado

LinkedIn: in/AngelyMercado

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Episode Title: Your Story Is Your Brand: What Environmental Employers Actually Want | George Homsy, Binghamton University

In this episode of the Green Collar Careers Podcast, I sit down with Professor George Homsy, Chair of the newly established Department of Environment and Sustainability at Binghamton University (my almamater).

Professor has one of the most compelling on-linear career paths I’ve encountered on this podcast. He co-founded Living on Earth, one of public radio’s longest-running environmental newsmagazines. He became an urban planner. He went back to Cornell for his PhD. And now he chairs one of the most innovative environmental programs in the SUNY system.

But what makes this conversation special is not just George’s story. It’s what his research tells us about the skills that actually matter in environmental and sustainability work. Spoiler: it’s not the technical stuff.

We get into:

The Origin Story: From running around the dense streets of Somerville, Massachusetts to co-founding Living on Earth - how George followed a thread of curiosity across journalism, planning, and academia without ever having a master plan.

The Research: George and his colleagues interviewed 59 sustainability leaders from local governments across the country. What they found about the skills that matter most will surprise you —and validate everything you’ve been told on this podcast.

The Skills That Actually Get You Hired:Persistence. Strategic thinking. Political savvy. Relationship building.Communication. Listening. These are what sustainability leaders said mattered most in their jobs. Technical expertise didn’t crack the top of the list.

“Your Story Is Your Brand”: George makes the case that every experience you’ve had — even if it has nothing to do with the environment — is part of a story that employers can connect to. The key is learning how to tell it.

Energy Justice: George’s research on why Black households pay disproportionately more in energy costs — even when income is equal — and what local governments can actually do about it.

What Binghamton Is Doing Differently: From the White Mountain Environmental Field School to community-engaged capstone projects to the brand new Department of Environment and Sustainability — George walks us through how Binghamton is preparing students for the real world, not just the classroom.

Advice for Mid-Career Professionals: You don’t have to blow up your life to work in the environmental space. George talks about how to find the low-hanging fruit where you already are — and when it makes sense to make a bigger move.

Final Words: Just do it. George’s closing message to anyone sitting on the sidelines wondering if there’s a place for them in this work.

If you’ve ever been told that your background doesn't qualify you for environmental work — this conversation is your answer. The skills you’ve been building your entire career are exactly what this fieldneeds.

Get the free Green Pivot Map (90-DayFramework) at josealmanzaresq.com.

🎙️ Connect with George Homsy

Binghamton University: binghamton.edu

Email: [email protected]

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Website: josealmanzaresq.com

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/josealmanzaresq

Substack: substack.com/@josealmanzar

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This podcast andnewsletter for professionals who feel pulled toward environmental or climatework but aren’t sure how to make the move. Each episode features honestconversations with people who have built meaningful careers in this space and the practical lessons they learned along the way. Hosted by Jose Almanzar, environmental attorney and former environmental scientist.

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In this episode of the Green Collar Careers podcast, I sit down with Robyn Rehak, Chief Advancement Officer at the New York Restoration Project, the organization founded by Bette Midler in 1995 to clean, green, and restore New York City’s parks and public spaces.

Robyn started her environmental career as a student activist at the University of Vermont, spent 15 years at The Nature Conservancy across multiple roles and geographies, and has built one of the most compelling non-linear career paths in the environmental nonprofit world.

Her background is not science. It is passion, philanthropy, and strategic leadership, and it has taken her everywhere.

We dive deep into:

-The Origin Story: How a trip to Yosemite at13 years old sparked a lifelong commitment to conservation, and what happened next when Robyn followed that pull all the way to Ecuador, the Rainforest Action Network, and eventually The Nature Conservancy.

-What a Chief Advancement Officer Actually Does: Robyn breaks down a role most people have never heard of, and explains why passion for the mission is the most important skill you can bring to it.

-Fifteen Years at TNC: What Robyn learned about building a career inside one of the world’s largest conservation organizations, and why she eventually left to take on something new.

-The Skills the Field Is Missing: Robyn hasspent her career on the funding and partnership side of environmental organizations. She knows what skills organizations desperately need and can't find. Her answer may surprise you.

-What the Field Actually Needs From You: Robynis clear that environmental organizations need people from every backgroundimaginable: communicators, fundraisers, strategists, relationship builders. Thescience degree is not the door.

-The Relay Race: A beautiful framework Robynoffers for anyone feeling overwhelmed by the scale of the environmental crisis.We’re not here to solve everything. We’re here to carry the baton.

If you have ever wondered whether a career in environmental nonprofits requires a science background, Robyn Rehak is your answer. It doesn’t. It requires passion, relationships, and the willingness toshow up for the work.

00:00 — Introduction02:38 — Where Robyn grew up and how nature became her playground

03:43 — The Yosemite moment at 13 that started it all11:33 — What is NYRP and how Bette Midler started it

09:24 — What does a Chief Advancement Officer actually do

20:08 — The skills that make the role work

24:47 — 15 years at The Nature Conservancy

31:42 — "I don't want to count frogs every day" — knowing your strengths

37:13 — The informational interview that landed Robyn her first job

41:05 — Advice for mid-career professionals looking to pivot

46:32 — "We need you. We need everybody."

47:36 — Why every sector needs environmental voices51:07 — Final words for anyone sitting on the sidelines

Get the free Green Pivot Map (90-DayFramework) at josealmanzaresq.com.

#environmentalcareers #greenjobs #careerpivot#conservation #environmentalnonprofit #urbanforestry #nycparks #climateaction#greencareers

🎙️ Connect with Robyn Rehak

LinkedIn: in/robynrehak

NY Restoration Project: nyrp.org/en

🎙️ Connect with Jose:

Website: josealmanzaresq.com

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/josealmanzaresq

Substack: substack.com/@josealmanzar

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Green Collar Careers is a podcast and newsletter for professionals who feel pulled toward environmental or climate work but aren’t sure how to make the move. Each episode features honest conversations with people who have built meaningful careers in this space and the practical lessons they learned along the way. Hosted by Jose Almanzar, environmental attorney and former environmental scientist.

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In this episode ofthe Green Collar Careers podcast, I sit down with Sam Kay, Chief of the AirQuality Planning Branch at the DC Department of Energy and Environment. Sam'spath is anything but linear. He earned a PhD in geography, held assistantprofessor positions at the University of Minnesota Duluth and the University ofWashington, then left academia entirely to join the EPA as an AAAS Science andTechnology Policy Fellow. From there he became an Environmental ProtectionSpecialist and Scientist at EPA, co-founded the Environmental and Health DataAnalysis Trust, and is now four months into running air quality policy for thenation's capital.

We dive deep into:

• From theClassroom to the Air We Breathe: Why Sam walked away from a tenure-trackacademic career to join the EPA, and what that decision actually required.

• The AAASFellowship:What the Science and Technology Policy Fellowship is and why it's one of themost underrated entry points into federal environmental work.

• Moving TowardGovernment, Not Away From It: While many people are leaving federal andcity environmental roles right now, Sam moved deeper into public service. Why.

• Put Yourself inthe Way of Surprise: The advice from Sam's graduate mentor that has shapedhow he thinks about career decisions ever since.

• ImposterSyndrome as a Feature, Not a Bug: Sam's honest take on what it means tofeel like an imposter in this work and why that feeling might be the mostreliable sign you're exactly where you should be.

• Advice forMid-Career Pivoters: What someone with a background in finance, healthcare,or any other field should actually do if they feel pulled toward environmentalor public health work.

If you've everwondered whether a non-linear path, academia to government to data to policy,can lead somewhere meaningful, Sam Kay is proof that it can.

Get the free GreenPivot Map (90-Day Framework) at josealmanzaresq.com and via this link.

#EnvironmentalCareers#GreenCollarCareers #AirQuality #PublicHealth #CareerPivot #ClimateJobs#Sustainability #EnvironmentalJustice #CareerAdvice #ClimateWork

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LinkedIn:linkedin.com/in/samueljkay

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Website:josealmanzaresq.com

LinkedIn:linkedin.com/in/josealmanzaresq

Substack:substack.com/@josealmanzar

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🎙️About Green Collar Careers

Green Collar Careersis a podcast and newsletter for professionals who feel pulled towardenvironmental or climate work but aren't sure how to make the move. Eachepisode features honest conversations with people who have built meaningfulcareers in this space and the practical lessons they learned along the way.Hosted by Jose Almanzar, environmental attorney and former environmentalscientist.

📢DISCLAIMER

Nothing in thispodcast constitutes legal advice. This podcast is not attorney advertising.Nothing said in this podcast is endorsed by the podcast host, their guests, ortheir employers. The views expressed by the podcast host and their guests aretheir own and do not reflect the opinions of their employers. By listening tothis podcast, the listener is not entering into an attorney-client relationshipor any other relationship with the host or their guests.

In this episode of the Green Collar Careers Podcast, I sit down with Adam Flint, Director of Clean Energy Programs at the Network for a Sustainable Tomorrow (NeST) in Binghamton, New York.

Adam has two sociology degrees from Binghamton University, no engineering background, and co-led the design of a $52 million statewide clean energy program in New York. His story is proof that the biggest barrier to clean energy careers is not credentials. It is that most people have never heard these jobs exist.

We dive deep into:

• The Sociology to Clean Energy Pipeline: How two sociology degrees and a mid-career pivot from academia became the foundation for over a decade of directing clean energy programs, workforce development, and statewide policy work.

• The Energy Corps Internship: How NeST has placed over 130 interns from every major into meaningful clean energy careers and what Adam actually looks for when he hires.

• The Resume That Wasn't Written for the Job: Adam was hiring the morning of a panel we did together at Binghamton University. The resumes weren't written for the position. The interviews revealed everything.

• The Visibility Problem: Why the biggest barrier to filling clean energy jobs is not a shortage of qualified people. It is that most people have never heard of these careers and what we need to do about it.

• Advice for Mid-Career Pivoters: What someone 10 or 15 years into finance, communications, or tech should actually do to break into clean energy. Adam's advice maps almost exactly onto the Green Pivot Method.

• Stubborn Hope: Adam's closing message for anyone who feels paralyzed by the state of the planet. Why doing something, anything, with someone else is the answer.

If you have ever wondered whether your non-traditional background can translate into a meaningful clean energy career, Adam Flint is your proof that it can.

Get the free Green Pivot Map (90-Day Framework) at josealmanzaresq.com.

#CleanEnergy #GreenCollarCareers #EnvironmentalCareers #GreenJobs #CareerPivot #Sustainability #ClimateJobs #CleanEnergyJobs #EnvironmentalJustice #CareerAdvice

Timestamps:0:00 - Introduction2:02 - What is NeST and what they do9:22 - The Energy Corps internship program20:18 - Two sociology degrees to directing a $52 million clean energy program24:45 - Where Adam's passion for justice comes from30:08 - Solving the visibility problem for clean energy careers36:15 - The resume story from the Binghamton panel45:15 - Advice for mid-career professionals wanting to pivot53:57 - Final words for people sitting on the sidelines57:01 - How to connect with Adam

🎙️ Connect with Adam Flint:LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/adamsflintNeST: nynest.org

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🎙️ About Green Collar CareersGreen Collar Careers is a podcast and newsletter for professionals who feel pulled toward environmental or climate work but aren't sure how to make the move. Each episode features honest conversations with people who have built meaningful careers in this space and the practical lessons they learned along the way. Hosted by Jose Almanzar, environmental attorney and former environmental scientist.

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📢 DISCLAIMER: Nothing in this podcast constitutes legal advice. This podcast is not attorney advertising. Nothing said in this podcast is endorsed by the podcast host, their guests, or their employers. The views expressed by the podcast host and their guests are their own and do not reflect the opinions of their employers. By listening to this podcast, the listener is not entering into an attorney-client relationship or any other relationship with the host or their guests.

Keith Brodock, Principal and Senior Engineer at LaBella Associates, told me that in his entire 25-year career, most of his job opportunities came from direct relationships.

He's had one of the most decorated careers in environmental engineering. Three patents. Seventeen PE licenses across the country. A canoe guide in Minnesota. A production line worker at IBM. And somehow, all of it led to remediating contaminated sites, designing cleanup systems, and helping the next generation of environmental professionals find their footing.

In this episode of the Green Collar Careers podcast, Keith breaks down the unconventional path that took him from chemical engineering at Clarkson University to becoming one of the most sought-after environmental engineers on the East Coast.

If you have ever wondered whether your non-traditional background can translate into a meaningful environmental career, Keith Brodock is your proof that it can.

Get the free Green Pivot Map (90-Day Framework) at josealmanzaresq.com

#GreenCareers #EnvironmentalEngineering #CareerPivot #GreenCollarCareers #EnvironmentalCareers #Networking #CareerAdvice #Sustainability #LaBellaAssociates #ClimateWork

Timestamps:0:00 - Introduction2:28 - What LaBella Associates does5:24 - Geothermal energy: why hasn't it taken off?6:37 - Keith's role as an environmental engineer11:53 - Growing up in the IBM era & early influences17:26 - Chemical engineering at Clarkson University25:01 - How Keith accidentally landed in environmental work26:27 - The Green Pivot Map28:24 - The black hole of online job applications41:00 - How to stand out in the environmental job market45:27 - Networking: the real way careers get built47:36 - Introverts vs. extroverts at conferences53:05 - Advice for mid-career professionals wanting to pivot56:37 - Final words for anyone sitting on the sidelines

🎙️ Connect with Keith Brodock:LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/keithbrodock

🎙️ Connect with Jose:Website: josealmanzaresq.comLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/josealmanzaresqSubstack: substack.com/@josealmanzar

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🎙️ About Green Collar CareersGreen Collar Careers is a podcast and newsletter for professionals who feel pulled toward environmental or climate work but aren't sure how to make the move. Each episode features honest conversations with people who have built meaningful careers in this space and the practical lessons they learned along the way. Hosted by Jose Almanzar, environmental attorney and former environmental scientist.

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📢 DISCLAIMER: Nothing in this podcast constitutes legal advice. This podcast is not attorney advertising. Nothing said in this podcast is endorsed by the podcast host, their guests, or their employers. The views expressed by the podcast host and their guests are their own and do not reflect the opinions of their employers. By listening to this podcast, the listener is not entering into an attorney-client relationship or any other relationship with the host or their guests.

"I kept looking over my shoulder thinking, surely they're looking for someone else."

That is how Dana Geller felt when she first applied to The Nature Conservancy. After years of leading high-stakes communications in global pharma and humanitarian aid, she felt an internal "compass" pulling her toward climate work—but she didn't think her corporate background would translate to the world of PhDs and conservation scientists.

She was wrong.

In this episode, Dana Geller, the New York Director of Marketing and Communications at The Nature Conservancy, breaks down exactly how she transitioned from the corporate world to one of the most prestigious environmental organizations in the world.

We dive deep into:

• The “Slow Burn” Pivot: How childhood memories and an orange sky over Brooklyn turned a lifelong passion into a professional mission.

• The Secret to Translating Skills: Why her "storytelling muscles" from pharma were exactly what the climate movement needed to make invisible systems visible.

• Replacing Anxiety with Agency: How Dana shifts the conversation from "doom and gloom" to actionable progress.

• The “Outsider” Advantage: Why being the person without the PhD is your greatest asset in reaching the public.

• The LinkedIn Success Story: How Dana landed a senior role at TNC through a cold application by stacking her credentials and trusting her experience.

If you feel stuck in a corporate role and wonder if you have anything to offer the environmental movement, this conversation is your proof that you do.

Get the free Green Pivot Map (90-Day Framework) at JoseAlmanzarEsq.com.

#GreenCareers #ClimateAction #Sustainability #CareerPivot #NatureConservancy #Storytelling #ClimateJobs #GreenCollarCareers #EnvironmentalLaw #MarketingStrategy

Timestamps:

00:00 - Introduction

02:42 - The Childhood Spark

08:44 - The Orange Sky Moment

09:36 - The LinkedIn "Home Run"

13:12 - The Extroverted Search

16:24 - The Outsider Advantage

21:26 - Nature is Not an Escape

25:16 - Anxiety vs. Agency

37:15 - Leading Experts

45:15 - Final Advice

🎙️ Connect with Dana Geller:

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/danazgeller

🎙️ Connect with Jose:

Website: josealmanzaresq.com

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/josealmanzaresq

Substack: substack.com/@josealmanzar

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🎙️ About Green Collar Careers

Green Collar Careers is a podcast and newsletter for professionals who feel pulled toward environmental or climate work but aren't sure how to make the move. Each episode features honest conversations with people who have built meaningful careers in this space and the practical lessons they learned along the way. Hosted by Jose Almanzar, environmental attorney and former environmental scientist.

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📢 DISCLAIMER: Nothing in this podcast constitutes legal advice. This podcast is not attorney advertising. Nothing said in this podcast is endorsed by the podcast host, their guests, or their employers. The views expressed by the podcast host and their guests are their own and do not reflect the opinions of their employers. By listening to this podcast, the listener is not entering into an attorney-client relationship or any other relationship with the host or their guests.

What does 40+ years of placing people in environmental careers teach you? Everything.

Kevin Doyle has spent more than four decades at the intersection of environmental work and careers.

As Executive Director of Career and Professional Development at the Yale School of the Environment, and before that, two decades at the Environmental Careers Organization placing students in federal agencies and nonprofits nationwide, Kevin has seen more environmental career pivots succeed and fail than almost anyone alive.

In this conversation, we cover everything:

• The Funding Shift: How the drivers of environmental jobs have fundamentally shifted away from the federal government toward corporate sustainability, impact investing, and state-level policy.

• The Yale Framework: The four-part Community of Practice framework Yale uses to help students find their path.

• The #1 Skill: Why project management is the single most important skill for every environmental professional in 2026.

• The Differentiator: What separates the people who thrive from those who struggle, even with identical degrees.

• The Education Debate: The honest truth about graduate school vs. certification programs.

• Market Realities: And what to do when the job market feels impossible.

We also get into philosophy—Alan Watts, Krishnamurti, meditation, and why the thinking brain gets in the way of finding your path. This one goes deep.

If you've ever wondered where you fit in the environmental and climate space (or whether you're too late to make a move), this is the episode.

Get the free Green Pivot Map --> josealmanzaresq.com

#GreenCareers #EnvironmentalCareers #ClimateJobs #Sustainability #CareerPivot #GreenCollarCareers #YaleSchoolOfTheEnvironment #EnvironmentalLaw #CareerAdvice #GreenJobs

Timestamps:

00:00 - Introduction & Kevin's background

06:00 - His first job in local government

11:00 - How the environmental careers field has changed

18:00 - Stop thinking about job titles and start here instead

22:00 - How to find your path when you don't know what you want

28:00 - What environmental employers are actually looking for in 2026

31:00 - Why project management is the #1 skill every environmental professional needs

34:00 - The portfolio vs. the resume + employers don't fill jobs, they acquire talent

39:00 - What separates people who thrive from those who struggle

45:00 - Build your personal advisory board

47:00 - Graduate school vs. certification programs

51:00 - Three pieces of advice for mid-career professionals making the pivot right now

58:00 - Final message: "We need you."

🎙️ Connect with Kevin Doyle:

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kevin-doyle-98aa4820

Yale School of the Environment: environment.yale.edu

🎙️ Connect with Jose:

Website: josealmanzaresq.com

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/josealmanzaresq

Substack: substack.com/@josealmanzar

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🎙️ About Green Collar Careers

Green Collar Careers is a podcast and newsletter for professionals who feel pulled toward environmental or climate work but aren't sure how to make the move. Each episode features honest conversations with people who have built meaningful careers in this space and the practical lessons they learned along the way. Hosted by Jose Almanzar, environmental attorney and former environmental scientist.

📩 Subscribe to the newsletter at josealmanzaresq.com and Substack.

📢 DISCLAIMER: Nothing in this podcast constitutes legal advice. This podcast is not attorney advertising. Nothing said in this podcast is endorsed by the podcast host, their guests, or their employers. The views expressed by the podcast host and their guests are their own and do not reflect the opinions of their employers. By listening to this podcast, the listener is not entering into an attorney-client relationship or any other relationship with the host or their guests.

What does it actually look like to build a career around environmental work when you're 19 years old, hosting a podcast, attending college, interning at NASA, and still figuring it out?

In this episode, I sit down with Heidi Pan - host of the 1.5 Degrees podcast and environmental studies student at UPenn - for an honest conversation about climate anxiety, career uncertainty, and what it means to take action when the problem feels too big for any one person to solve.

Heidi started her podcast at 16. She's been interviewed by the BBC. And she still doesn't have it all figured out, which is exactly what makes this conversation worth your time. We get into the job market realities facing Gen Z, why your degree doesn't guarantee a career path anymore, how to break into environmental work without a science background, and the simple networking move that gets responses from people you'd never expect to hear back from.

If you've ever felt like you're not doing enough, or that the problem is too big for your small corner of the world, this one's for you.

🗺️ Get the Green Pivot Map - FreeFeeling pulled toward environmental or climate work but not sure where to start? I created a simple 90-day framework to help you reposition your existing skills and take intentional steps toward a career that actually fits.

Grab your free copy at josealmanzaresq.com or message me "PIVOT" on LinkedIn.

Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction00:40 - Meet Heidi Pan07:28 - What is the 1.5 Degrees Podcast actually about?10:44 - Where is this all leading? Heidi's career prospects13:45 - Leaning into communications and storytelling18:09 - Climate anxiety: how Gen Z is actually talking about it23:41 - Green Pivot Map (free resource - link in show notes)24:18 - What Gen Z is saying about the job market right now27:03 - Practical advice for students entering environmental careers29:02 - How to put yourself out there on social media (even when it's terrifying)35:20 - You don't need a STEM background to work in environmental37:36 - The exact cold email strategy that gets responses40:47 - Jose's inbox playbook: how to get anyone's attention44:45 - Final words of advice: "Just do it"

🔗 Connect with Heidi & Jose!

Connect with Heidi on LinkedIn:💼 LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/heidi-pan-037257219/🔗 Website: sites.google.com/view/heidipan/

Connect with Jose:💼 LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/josealmanzaresq🔗 Substack: josealmanzar.substack.com🔗 Website: josealmanzaresq.com

🎵 Music Credit - Kwae:📷 Instagram: @kwaemusic

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🎙️ About Green Collar CareersGreen Collar Careers is a podcast and newsletter for professionals who feel pulled toward environmental or climate work but aren't sure how to make the move. Each episode features honest conversations with people who have built meaningful careers in this space and the practical lessons they learned along the way. Hosted by Jose Almanzar, environmental attorney and former environmental scientist.

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In this episode of the Green Collar Careers Podcast, I sit down with Stacy Savage, founder of Zero Waste Strategies and the self-proclaimed “Texas Trash Talker.”

Stacy’s career path is a masterclass in transferable skills.

She went from slinging fajitas and margaritas in Austin to knocking on doors across legislative districts in Texas as a grassroots organizer. Over nine years, she learned how to handle rejection, regulate her emotions, communicate across political divides, and qualify conversations quickly… skills that would later shape her work in policy, consulting, and entrepreneurship.

Today, she advises companies on a “zero waste” strategy and helps them see sustainability not just as compliance, but as a competitive advantage.

In this episode, we talk about:

• How door-to-door organizing builds elite communication skills

• Handling rejection and staying mission-focused

• Transitioning from nonprofit work to entrepreneurship

• Building a memorable personal brand

• Turning advocacy experience into business value

• And how to carve out your niche in the environmental field

If you’re a student, career changer, or early professional wondering how your current skills translate into environmental work, this conversation is for you.

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Timestamps:00:00 – Introduction00:51 – Introducing Stacy Savage01:29 – The “Texas Trash Talker” Origin Story03:55 – Growing Up in Southeast Texas Oil & Gas Country06:00 – From Biology Major to Bartender08:50 – Getting Paid for Grassroots Organizing10:30 – 9 Years of Door-to-Door Environmental Organizing12:45 – Organizing Across All Texas Legislative Districts13:30 – Handling Rejection & Emotional Regulation15:00 – Sales Skills, Qualification & Finding Supporters31:24 – Breaking Into Sustainability & Business Skillsets45:29 – Final Career Advice: Trust the Nudge & Take Action

🔗 Connect with Stacy & Jose!

Connect with Stacy on LinkedIn:💼 LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/stacysavage🔗 Consulting for Women in Waste: 0waste.org/consulting-for-women-in-waste/

Connect with Jose:💼 LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/josealmanzaresq🔗 Substack: josealmanzar.substack.com🔗 Linktree: linktr.ee/jalmanzar

🎵 Music Credit - Kwae:📷 Instagram: @kwaemusic

🎨 Logo Credit - Leo:📷 Instagram: @logic9uy_art

Subscribe to Green Collar Careers Podcast:

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🎙️ About Green Collar CareersThe Green Collar Careers Podcast explores the many paths into environmental and sustainability work, what those careers actually look like, how people get started, and how they grow over time.

📢 DISCLAIMER: Nothing in this podcast constitutes legal advice. This podcast is not attorney advertising. Nothing said in this podcast is endorsed by the podcast host, their guests, or their employers. The views expressed by the podcast host and their guests are their own and do not reflect the opinions of their employers. By listening to this podcast, the listener is not entering into an attorney-client relationship or any other relationship with the host or their guests.