If you look at some of the wealthiest people in this country and their portfolios, there's always going to be real estate in that portfolio. And this goes back to the beginning of time. You look at Jerry Jones, we all respect him for what he's done with the Cowboys. He is also interested in commercial real estate, including the Star and AT&T Stadium. To talk more about commercial real estate is my next guest the professor of real estate, Greg Barron.