Greg Chasson, PhD, ABPP, is an international keynote speaker, esteemed psychologist, board-certified cognitive-behavioral therapist, researcher, and educator. He is an Associate Professor in the Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Neuroscience at the University of Chicago, where he also serves as Director of Behavioral Interventions at the Obsessive-Compulsive & Related Disorders Clinic. Dr. Chasson is the author of Flawed: Why Perfectionism is a Challenge for Management and the Founder and Director of the Balanced Executive Lab.

In this episode, Leonard and Greg discuss:

• The double-edged sword of perfectionism and why it sabotages performance
• The psychological traps high achievers fall into, including burnout and rigidity
• How self-oriented vs. other-oriented perfectionism affects leadership and teams
• The power of values-based decision-making in combating process paralysis
• How to shift from striving to thriving with practical behavioral strategies

Key Takeaways:

• A nuanced exploration of perfectionism reveals it’s not the enemy—until it's fueled by rigidity and impossible standards, turning a strength into a self-sabotaging force.
• Self-oriented perfectionism doesn’t just exhaust the individual; it radiates outward, quietly eroding trust, morale, and team cohesion in leadership environments.
• The episode challenges rule-based thinking, urging a shift toward values-driven choices as a path to psychological freedom and authentic leadership.
• Not every task deserves a perfectionist's intensity—learning to prioritize effort is portrayed as a strategic act of personal sustainability.
• Contrary to popular belief, burnout isn’t cured by stepping away—it’s resolved by stepping inward, confronting misaligned values, and reclaiming a sense of purpose in the work itself.

"Perfectionism isn’t all bad—but the mistake is thinking you’ll lose your edge if you let it go. You won’t lose your strengths—you’ll finally be free to use them better."

-Greg Chasson

Connect with Greg Chasson:

Website: https://www.gregchasson.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregchasson/ 

Greg’s Book: https://www.amazon.com/Flawed-Why-Perfectionism-Challenge-Management/dp/B0CY3GVD81/ 

Free Resources: www.gregchasson.com/findbalance

Email: [email protected] 

Connect with Leonard Raskin:

Website: https://www.raskinglobal.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leonardraskin/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RaskinGlobal 

Email: [email protected]  

Leonard’s BOOK: FiduciWho?: What a Real Fiduciary Will Tell You about How to Protect, Grow, Enjoy, and Transfer Your Wealth

Show notes by Podcastologist: Angelo Paul Tagama

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