Kimberlyn and Leilani discuss the tendency to push grief away, how they move with and experience grief, how as witches they stand in the shadow and transform it, and the power of friends to hold space and heal.  They share their thoughts on fast processing and The Handmaid’s Tale.  And listen as they read the poem "Spell for the End of Grief" by Amie Whittemore, 2020-2021 Poet Laureate of Murfreesboro, Tennessee.

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