Just in time for spooky season, on this episode I interview the fabulous Elena Box, Shamanic Death Doula and Comédienne, about learning to form a relationship to death and dying as an integral part of the life cycle. We discuss strategies and practices for managing and working with grief in its many forms and phases, as well as a powerful visitation dream from Elena’s dad after his passing. Our discussion is held with a spirit of levity and laughter, holding space for the joy that exists alongside the sorrow. I hope it is helpful to you!

CW: brief (not detailed) discussion of both pregnancy loss and loss of a parent periodically throughout the episode 

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