Grit and Grace: Real Conversatons on Resilience, Growth and Living in Alignment

Are you chasing freedom — or running from fear?

In this episode, Pam and Erin are joined by returning guest Brian Thiessen 🤠 for a raw and real conversation about one of the most misunderstood concepts in personal growth: freedom.

Most of us treat freedom like a destination with a locked gate — something we'll finally reach when the debt is gone, the relationship changes, the kids grow up, or the job improves. But what if that relentless pursuit of freedom is itself the trap?

Drawing on Brian's years on the rodeo circuit — the ultimate symbol of the "freedom lifestyle" — the three of them unpack what it actually feels like to chase freedom on the road and discover loneliness waiting at the finish line. It turns out the cowboy riding off into the sunset is just as imprisoned as everyone else, just by different chains.

In this episode, you'll explore:

• Why the people most obsessed with being free are often the least free — and how the fear of losing freedom becomes its own prison

• The crucial difference between freedom and relief — and why confusing the two keeps us running in circles

• How shame, "shoulds," and acquired values become invisible shackles — and what it looks like to start loosening them

• Why discipline equals freedom — and how running away from responsibility is actually the opposite of what we're seeking

• The somatic experience of feeling "not free" — and why the cage is in the nervous system, not the circumstances

• The God Space — that gap between stimulus and meaning where real freedom lives

• A simplified version of Mooji's Invitation to Freedom meditation you can do in 60 seconds

• Why commitment, connection, and responsibility are not the opposite of freedom — and what actually is
• How to tell the difference between your walls going up for protection versus genuinely needing to walk away

The snake and the rope shows up here too. Most of what we're trying to escape isn't a real threat — it's old data, pattern-matched in the dark. The belief that "I'm not free" is often itself a rope seen in the dusk.

The closing invitation from Pam: What if you're already free — and the only thing standing between you and that experience is the story you're believing about why you're not?

Practical tools from this episode:

• The Freedom Audit — three questions to find out if you're actually constrained or just in a story
• The 60-Second Mooji Practice — set down every label and notice what's underneath
• The Present Moment Check-In — right now, what do you actually have control over?
• Movement as medicine — how getting in your body is one of the fastest routes to presence and freedom
• Gratitude for the present moment (not the past) as a daily freedom practice

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Have you ever sent a text, gotten silence back — and immediately decided it meant the worst?

That gap between what actually happened and the meaning you assigned it? That's where most of our suffering lives. And it might be costing you some of the most important relationships in your life.

In this episode, Pam Rader and Erin Payne unpack a powerful yogic teaching — the Snake and the Rope — and explore what it really means to make decisions when you're flooded with fear, anxiety, or self-protection.

What you'll discover in this episode:

🐍 The Snake and the Rope parable — why your mind mistakes harmless "ropes" for dangerous "snakes," and how that one error drives reactive decisions that damage relationships

🌑 What "dusk" really means — the flooded, in-between state where your nervous system is predicting danger from the past and projecting it onto the future — and why this is the worst time to decide anything

🧠 The sophistication trap — how the smarter you are, the more convincing your snake story becomes (and why that's dangerous)

💡 The God Space — the gap between sensation and verdict where your freedom lives and where you get to choose the meaning you assign

🔦 3 practical tools to move from dusk into the light:

• Check your light level: Am I flooded right now? Can I even trust this story?

• Name the storm: This is my nervous system — not a verdict
• Ask "What else could this mean?" — and let it be a hypothesis, not a conclusion

Pam shares a raw, personal story about navigating relationship uncertainty and a returning PTSD response — and how naming the experience (instead of acting on it) changed everything. Erin shares what happened when she almost ended a friendship over a conversation that was actually an act of love.

The bottom line: Your mind doesn't experience events — it experiences its interpretation of events. Patience isn't a cliché. It's a nervous system skill.

As Pam's grandpa used to say: "You can have a situation and get yourself bent out of shape — but then you have the same situation AND you're bent out of shape."

Don't make decisions in the dusk.

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You Are Not Your Story: Setting Down the Past to Step Into Who You're Becoming

Have you ever caught yourself leading with your hardest chapters — the divorce, the breakdown, the business that fell apart — as proof you've earned the right to be taken seriously?

In this episode, Pam Rader and embodiment coach Erin Payne pull apart a pattern that shows up in even the most self-aware people: the story we keep telling about ourselves that masquerades as inspiration but quietly keeps us tethered to the past.

Pam shares the moment her partner challenged her: Why do you keep leading with everything you've overcome? What followed was an uncomfortable and liberating discovery — beneath the desire to serve was a quiet thread of victimhood, a blind spot around self-worth dressed up as street credibility. Erin opens up about her own version: the "enlightenment loop" — doing so much healing work that the work itself becomes the identity.

In this episode:

• How to tell the difference between victimhood and inspiration
• The "managed survivor" vs the "conscious creator" — and how to shift
• Mooji's invitation: stop telling your story for one minute and see what remains
• How your body knows whether a story is healing you or holding you back
• Borrowing belief when you don't yet have enough of your own

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Keywords: you are not your story, identity shift, letting go of the past, victim mentality, personal reinvention, conscious creator, self-worth, trauma identity, managed survivor, embodiment coach, Mooji, personal growth podcast, Grit and Grace podcast

What if the thing quietly killing your relationship isn't the big blowouts — but the small patterns you've never even noticed?

In this episode of Grit and Grace, Pam and Erin sit down with Aftin Jolly, Registered Clinical Counselor and Level 2 Gottman-trained couples therapist based in Kelowna, BC. Aftin brings clinical expertise and raw honesty to one of our most requested topics — relationships. The good, the messy, and the "are we actually going to make it" moments.

THE FOUR HORSEMEN OF RELATIONSHIP DESTRUCTION Gottman research identifies four patterns that predict relationship breakdown: — Contempt: The #1 predictor of failure. It's the look that says "I'm better than you." — Criticism: How "helpful" comments quietly erode your partner's self-worth — Defensiveness: Why avoiding accountability destroys connection long-term — Stonewalling: The difference between needing to regulate and using silence as punishment

WHAT WE ALSO COVER — The Emotional Bank Account: why one negative interaction takes 20 positives to balance — Bids for attention and how they build or drain your relationship daily — Why emotional intimacy erodes before physical intimacy — and what to do — The safety vs. desire teeter-totter (Esther Perel's framework) — Why no conflict is not the same as happiness — The weekly check-in question that keeps couples connected before crisis

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If this episode stirred something up and you're ready to stop waiting for things to get better on their own, Pam offers 1:1 coaching to help you move toward more freedom and fulfillment — in your relationships and your life. 👉 pamrader.com

WORK WITH ERIN Erin works 1:1 with clients who are ready to do the deeper work. If her voice resonated with you today, connect with her at www.erinpayne,ca or connect with her on Instagram. 👉 @epayne

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ABOUT AFTIN JOLLY Registered Clinical Counselor | Level 2 Gottman Couples Therapist | Equine Assisted Learning Facilitator Based in Kelowna, BC | Available via Zoom aftinjollycounseling.com | @aftinjollycounseling

RESOURCES MENTIONED The Gottman Institute — gottman.com Esther Perel — estherperel.com Terry Real — relationallife.com Byron Katie — thework.com

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What if the life you're living right now isn't happening to you — but because of you?

In this episode, Pam and Erin dive deep into the Law of Assumption — the teaching made famous by Neville Goddard and later built upon by Bob Proctor — and explore how our unconscious assumptions about love, money, worthiness, and belonging quietly shape every outcome in our lives.

This one gets personal. Pam shares how a deep-seated assumption about addiction shaped her experience with her son, how an unexamined belief about heartbreak made it inevitable, and how a disciplined shift in assumption brought the relationship she has now into being. Erin unpacks how her assumptions played out in a decade-long relationship, a recent breakup, and a stranger at a soccer field who turned out to be married — and what all of it revealed about the beliefs running quietly in the background.

But this isn't a manifestation-from-the-couch episode. It's a real, honest, sometimes messy conversation about what it actually takes to rewire the mind.

In this episode you'll explore:

• What the Law of Assumption actually is — and why it's not magic, toxic positivity, or a wish list
• How your unconscious assumptions are shaping your relationships, finances, and sense of self — right now
• The difference between a disciplined and undisciplined mind, and why affirmations alone don't work
• How attachment styles (anxious and avoidant) are rooted in core assumptions — and how to shift them
• Why the brain prioritizes familiarity over truth — and how to use that to your advantage
• The daily practice that begins to rewire your nervous system and build new identity states
• Why "desirable vs undesirable" is more powerful than "right vs wrong" when examining your patterns
• How one aligned action can shift an assumption at the cellular level

Pam's reflection on the disciplined mind: "Your subconscious mind is like a movie projector. Most people are trying to change the movie on the screen while continuing to feed the same film through the projector."

The practice they leave you with: Observe the assumption. Interrupt the catastrophic rehearsal. Practice the feeling you want — not fake happiness, but safety, worthiness, openness, and abundance — until the nervous system learns that the new assumption is survivable.

If you recognized yourself anywhere in this episode — in the resentment loops, the doom scrolling, the relationships that kept proving you right about the wrong things — this is your invitation to look at what's playing in the background. And to ask yourself: what would I create if I believed something different?

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You’re not just “irritated.”
You’re not just “tired of people.”

You might be resentful… and it’s costing you more than you think.

In this raw and honest conversation, Pam and Erin unpack one of the most misunderstood emotional patterns: resentment.

Not as something someone else is doing to you…
But as a powerful signal that you’ve abandoned yourself somewhere along the way.

Because here’s the truth:
Resentment doesn’t come out of nowhere.

It builds when:

• You say yes when you mean no
• You overgive hoping to be chosen
• You stay quiet to avoid conflict
• You expect people to meet needs you’ve never expressed

And then wonder why you feel exhausted, irritated, or secretly pissed off all the time.

This episode will help you:

• Understand what resentment is really telling you
• Identify where you’ve been out of alignment
• Stop leaking bitterness into your relationships
• Start having cleaner, more honest conversations
• Rebuild self-trust and personal responsibility

Because resentment isn’t the problem.

👉 It’s the clue.

• Resentment is often what happens when your mouth says yes and your soul says hell no
• Resentment = self-abandonment + unspoken truth
• There’s a difference between clean resentment (a signal) and dirty resentment (a victimhood loop)
• Most resentment is built on unspoken expectations + invisible rules
• Underneath resentment is often grief, not anger
• The question that changes everything:
  👉 Where have I been dishonest?

• Pause before projecting blame
• Identify the story vs. what actually happened
• Find where you abandoned yourself
• Ask: What did I need that I didn’t express?
• Have the clean conversation:

  “I’ve been saying yes when I don’t have capacity… and I need something to change.”

You’re not alone.

This is the work.

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• Join the community
• Or come experience this work in real life at the Grit & Grace Retreat

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Horses, yoga, connection, and the kind of truth-telling that changes your life.

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If you know someone who’s been quietly holding it together…
but is actually overwhelmed, depleted, or resentful—

Send this to them.

This might be the conversation they didn’t know they needed.

What if the stuff you're holding onto isn't just clutter — it's proof you haven't fully chosen yourself yet?

In this episode, Pam and Erin get real about the deeper meaning behind the things we just can't seem to let go of — from engagement rings and grandma's China to love letters from exes and shoes that don't even fit. What starts as a conversation about spring cleaning quickly becomes a raw, honest inquiry into attachment, identity, and how we've been looking for external proof of our own worth — often without even realizing it.

Pam shares why she listed her 1.8-carat engagement ring on Facebook Marketplace and what her partner's question — "can your ego handle letting go?" — cracked open for her. Erin opens up about keeping a ring from an abusive relationship and what that finally reveals about needing to feel chosen.

This episode will make you laugh, make you cringe (in the best way), and maybe take a wander through your house with fresh eyes.

IN THIS EPISODE:

• Why we hold onto things as "proof" we were chosen, loved, or worthy

• The difference between valuing yourself and choosing yourself

• How attachment to objects is really attachment to old identities

• What your love languages might actually be telling you about your wounds

• Buddhist non-attachment and the freedom on the other side of letting go

• The mac and cheese incident (you'll hear about it, you won't forget it)

LISTENER INQUIRY:

Take a wander through your house. Pick one thing you're holding onto. Ask yourself: why am I keeping this? Who is it really for? And what would open up if I let it go?

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Are we unknowingly shaping our lives around advice from wounded people?

In this thought-provoking episode of Grit & Grace, Pam and Erin dive into the hidden risks of blindly following popular ideas — from relationship trends and parenting philosophies to spiritual influencers and self-help movements.

Together, they explore how easily we can outsource our inner authority when charisma, belonging, or confirmation bias gets involved. Through personal stories and honest reflection, they unpack the difference between wisdom and coping strategies, and why learning to question everything is essential for living in truth and alignment.

This conversation is not about mistrust or cynicism — it’s about discernment. It’s about reclaiming your power to think for yourself in a world that constantly tells you what to believe.

If you’ve ever wondered whether the advice you’re following is truly serving you… this episode is for you.

• Why charismatic voices can feel convincing — and even intoxicating
• The difference between charisma and character
• How algorithms and confirmation bias shape our beliefs
• The danger of labeling others (and ourselves) through simplified psychology
• How unmet needs for belonging and validation can make us vulnerable to influence
• Questions you can ask to strengthen discernment and self-trust
• Why real wisdom is often simple — and found within

• Where did this idea come from — and what pain may have shaped it?
• Is this concept helping me understand… or just defend my current viewpoint?
• Is this advice creating more connection in my life — or more separation?
• Am I seeking truth… or looking for someone to save me?

Ultimately, Pam and Erin remind listeners that wounded people sharing their stories isn’t the problem — the real danger is when we stop thinking and start following.

Share it with someone who might need encouragement to trust their own inner wisdom.

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What if the thing causing the most chaos in your relationships…
isn’t what happened — but what you told yourself it meant?

In this honest (and hilariously cringey) episode, Pam and Erin pull back the curtain on the emotional spirals we all experience — from insecurity and jealousy to over-processing childhood wounds and defending feelings that may not actually be based in truth.

This conversation explores the powerful — and often uncomfortable — reality that our thoughts create meaning, meaning creates emotion, and emotion drives behaviour and results.

If you’ve ever found yourself picking fights in your head, overanalyzing a partner’s behaviour, or holding onto emotions that keep you stuck… this episode will hit home.

Expect real stories, uncomfortable truths, and practical tools to help you take radical emotional responsibility — without suppressing your feelings.

Because sometimes the most loving thing you can do…
is check yourself before you wreck yourself.

• Why emotional expression without self-awareness can damage relationships

• The difference between feeling emotions and believing every thought that creates them

• How insecurity, comparison, and old programming show up in adult relationships

• The danger of “always” and “never” thinking

• Confirmation bias, the reticular activating system, and emotional storytelling

• How radical responsibility builds self-trust and relationship safety

• Why examining your thoughts creates clarity, alignment, and empowerment

• A powerful perspective shift: What else could this mean?

Events are neutral.
The meaning we give them isn’t.

When we question our assumptions instead of defending them, we reclaim our power — and often save our relationships in the process.

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In a world where everyone seems to have an opinion about how we should live, the real work is learning to trust ourselves—even when others don’t understand our choices.

In this episode of Grit & Grace, Pam and Erin reflect on their experience at the Pathmaker Awards on International Women’s Day and explore a powerful truth about living an authentic life:

If you’re truly walking in alignment, you will be misunderstood.

And that’s not a problem—it’s the price of living truthfully.

Together they unpack the hidden ways we spend our lives managing other people’s perceptions, why the need to be understood can quietly sabotage our freedom, and how developing the courage to stand in your truth can change everything.

This conversation touches on family dynamics, people-pleasing, entrepreneurship, reinvention, and the quiet strength it takes to live a life that doesn’t always make sense to others.

Because the truth is:
When you stop trying to explain yourself to everyone… you finally have the energy to build the life that’s actually yours.

And along the way, you might just become the lighthouse that shows other “misfit toys” they’re not alone.

• Why alignment often leads to being misunderstood

• The hidden cost of trying to manage other people’s perceptions

• How people-pleasing is often rooted in the fear of being misunderstood

• Why defending your choices actually weakens your position

• The paradox of validation vs. self-worth

• Family dynamics and the experience of being the “black sheep”

• Why true leadership requires the courage to be disliked

• How to question the fears that keep you stuck in misalignment

• Why finding your tribe of fellow weirdos matters

• “The truth doesn’t need defending.”

• “The only two people I need applause from are my five-year-old self and my eighty-five-year-old self.”

• “If you want to belong, become a place where others belong.”

• “When we live someone else’s life, it’s poison.”

If this conversation resonates with you and you’re ready to explore deeper alignment in your own life, we would love to spend time with you in person.

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📅 May 21–24

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Come meet your fellow ragamuffins and misfit toys.

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