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Welcome to the Growing Careers & Companies Podcast with Allison S. Weiss. We’re back with a special solo episode, focused on one of our favorite social media platforms, LinkedIn. Today's episode is all about effectively using LinkedIn for the purposes of content marketing and positioning yourself as a thought leader. We talk about how to use hashtags efficiently, how often should you add value on social media instead of just selling, and the best ways to share content.
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If you're someone who knows that you should be doing more on LinkedIn, we're going to walk you through some of the different reasons why you should be active there and share with you some of our favorite best practices.
LinkedIn’s algorithm highly values original content.
However, if you’d like to share someone else’s content, there are 2 ways to do it:
The algorithm is highly focused on relevance.
This means that the people who are seeing and engaging with your posts have to find them relevant. To help with that use hashtags.
LinkedIn rewards people who are engaging on the platform.
If you are posting regularly, but you're not seeing your content grow in terms of views or interactions, it might make sense to start engaging in the comment sections of other people's posts.
LinkedIn rewards its viewers for staying on the platform.
The algorithm doesn’t like external links. If you want to use them then put the link in the comments a few minutes after posting.
Add value 3 to 5 times as often as you try to sell something.
If you are still on the fence about using LinkedIn, we want to encourage you to hop on board. It is an incredible tool and one of the platforms with the lowest barriers to entry. You can start a new profile today just by uploading your existing resume or a company bio if you already have one.
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We’re back after a short break! Our guest today is Melissa Wasserman, psychologist, speaker, consultant, and trauma expert. In this wide-ranging episode, we talk about her untraditional career journey and how the pandemic has caused a lot of chaos in our personal and work lives. Melissa also shares her best piece of advice about navigating challenges, cultivating resilience, and some tools that you can use to implement in your daily life.
Learn more about Melissa and her story at: www.growingcareersandcompanies.com.
“One of my biggest values and such a big part of my identity is being relational and being human.”
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Melissa grew up in a Jewish family and her parents both worked in the real estate industry. She was always very active as a child and valued meaningful relationships. She attended religious school growing up and attended religious studies in college.
During her years in college, Melissa had a class about American religion and its impact on the Vietnam War. She learned about family traumas in military families and realized that this was her calling in life. She became a licensed psychologist and a trauma expert.
“Communication is a mega resilience factor in systems to buffer the impact of mental health symptoms.”
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Melissa shares some advice on how to navigate through challenges.
Melissa is a trauma expert and specializes in generational family traumas. In her experience, family traumas are stronger in families where they don’t have good communication with each other. Communication is key and it is a huge resilience factor, so it’s important to learn how to communicate well and listen to each other.
Melissa started her business just a few months before the global pandemic. This presented a lot of challenges for her, but she loves the dynamic work environment and wearing many hats as a business owner.
The Final 3 Questions
Patience - not just with others but mostly with herself. Making mistakes is part of the human experience, so we need to be kind to ourselves and learn from them.
Purpose and Community. These two words are greatly interconnected to Melissa as she finds purpose in community and through connectivity.
That we are all human and we are all resilient. Be gentle and kind to yourself and others.
About Our Guest, Melissa Wasserman
Dr. Melissa Wasserman (AKA Dr. Meli) is a Licensed Clinical Psychologist (PSY30983). She has specialty in traumatic stress, particularly how trauma-related challenges impact interpersonal relationships (e.g., couples, families, social, work relationships). While trauma can include a wide variety of experiences and challenges, her expertise includes working with individuals who have experienced interpersonal/relational trauma, war-related trauma and violence, civilian and military sexual trauma, and traumatic loss. She is trained in evidence-based and trauma-informed interventions including Cognitive Processing Therapy (CPT), Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT), Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT), and Families Overcoming Under Stress (FOCUS). She is also trained in Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR).
Along with her clinical work, she is an Assistant Professor of Psychology at Pepperdine University’s Graduate School of Education & Psychology where she teaches master’s and doctoral level psychology students. Additionally, Dr. Meli is the Co-Director of the Pepperdine Union Rescue Mission Counseling Center, a collaboration between Pepperdine University’s Graduate School of Education & Psychology and the Union Rescue Mission, a faith-based mission located on Los Angeles’ skid row. Dr. Meli is a member of the American Psychological Association, Society of Indian Psychologists, the International Society for the Study of Traumatic Stress, and Psi Chi Psychological Honors Society.
A warm thanks to Melissa Wasserman for taking the time to share his unique insights and experiences with us.
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Welcome to the Growing Careers & Companies Podcast with Allison S. Weiss. We have a special episode today that is specifically tailored for brokers, leasing agents, originators, and other business development professionals who are changing jobs. We dive deep into Allison’s transition checklist that helps you be as effective as possible and point you to some great resources if you feel stuck in your transition.
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“The first step in making a transition is owning that it is time to go and spending some time thinking about the future.”
This winter is a big season for transition in commercial real estate. If you’re considering transitioning and need support or guidance, then reach out to us. Allison is the founder of CRE Recruiting, a commercial real estate focused national search firm. You can email her at [email protected].
Here are a few useful tips to make your transition smoother and more successful.
Know your independent contractor agreement or employment agreement, and locate policy manuals or other documents you might have signed as a part of joining your company.
These legal documents govern your relationship with your current company, and can be crucial in your transition. Make sure you understand everything, especially sections that detail “termination”, and if you don’t - seek out expert help in interpreting them.
Map out the current deal pipeline.
Make sure you understand the deals that you have in progress. Compare that pipeline to any post-termination obligations that your current company might have.
Save your contact list privately if you can.
Make sure that you have your phone set up to save contacts directly to your personal phone or cloud account to avoid losing them when you leave the company. Some contact information might be subject to a technology privacy policy or non-disclosure policy so learn about that beforehand.
Plan the marketing of your transition.
Think about how to let people know that you’ve changed firms. Segment your clients into different groups based on how close your relationship is to them, and plan an appropriate approach for notifying each group.
Move your license(s) and update your social media with the new company.
Your biographical information should be updated across all platforms from your new company’s website to your social media channels.
Take your personal belongings home from the office ahead of time.
You can leave some of the bigger items in the office as they will be returned to you and would cause unnecessary attention, but you should take home important personal items home with you over time in advance of the transition.
These are just a few of the items on our brokerage transition checklist. If you want to learn more about the process or need some in-depth guidance on your transition, then reach out to Allison at [email protected].
Regardless of the reason, if it is time to go and you need help and support, we are here for you!
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Our guest today is Leka Devatha, a real estate developer, broker, and the host of the wildly successful meetup, Real Estate At Work. In this episode, we follow her journey from India to the US, leaving the corporate world to chase her entrepreneurial dreams, and we hear some of her most successful and challenging deals throughout her career. Join us and get inspired!
Learn more about Leka and her story at: www.growingcareersandcompanies.com.
The more you can put yourself in that growth-mode, the more amazing and bigger things you're going to do.”
“The beauty of real estate is that there is no roadmap. You literally can go and create the life that you want.”
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Leka has always been entrepreneurial. She started her first company at 18 years old in India. When she got married, she moved to the US and worked in fashion merchandising. Leka didn’t feel empowered in her day job and wanted to do something more entrepreneurial.
One day she was listening to the radio and heard an ad from a real estate flipping company that held a seminar in her city. The seminar changed her life as she got very interested in real estate.
Leka’s first fix-and-flip was in 2014. Since then, she’s flipped over 50 properties ranging from residential to commercial and she started her first syndication this year.
“I try to find 3 to 4 different exit strategies for every project that I take on.”
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Leka talks about the difference between passive and active investing. She sees a lot of value in passive investing as it is a great way to diversify your investments.
She shares some interesting stories from her real estate career. Once she bought a house that burnt down just 4 days before closing. Another time, she held onto a property for 4 years that she initially planned to flip in 3 months. According to Leka, she learned a lot from her deals and continues to learn every day.
Leka’s best pieces of advice on how to succeed in real estate:
Leka is running a successful virtual meetup called Real Estate At Work where she features prominent speakers in the real estate industry. Join her meetup here.
The Final 3 Questions
To hold everything she buys. Leka started as a flipper, but over the years, she learned that there is only so much real estate to go around. Now, if she finds an amazing deal, she holds on to it. The way to build long-term wealth is through appreciation and cash flow.
Community and Innovation. Innovation for her is learning or finding things that nobody has done before. As long as you are in putting yourself in front of a learning curve, you are constantly innovating.
That she’s just a normal person. She didn’t come from wealth but she put in the work and reached success. Leka encourages everyone to take one step at a time and play the long game. Eventually, you will succeed.
About Our Guest, Leka Devatha
Leka is a real estate developer and broker based in Seattle, WA. She is the President of Rehabit Homes, Inc. a company focused on residential and commercial redevelopment. She has spearheaded hundreds of transactions, developing around 100M in real estate. Leka brings 8 years of experience in construction management and redesign.
Leka has been featured on numerous podcasts and other media including Business Insider and BiggerPockets. She is a chapter contributor in the recently published book 'The Only Woman in The Room'. In an effort to give back to the community, she hosts a popular virtual networking mixer, 'Real Estate At Work' featuring prominent speakers from the industry.
Leka moved to the U.S. from India 14 years ago. Prior to investing in real estate, she worked at Nordstrom Corporate in merchandise strategy and financial planning.
A warm thanks to Leka Devatha for taking the time to share his unique insights and experiences with us.
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Our guest today is Kyle Inserra, a “recovering” restaurant owner, commercial real estate advisor, and prolific content creator. In this episode, we dive deep into Kyle's twisting and turning career journey from working in finance to the restaurant industry and commercial real estate. We talk about what people get wrong about social media and digital marketing platforms, what makes a great brand, and how can you do more business simply by showing up and being yourself.
Learn more about Kyle and his story at: www.growingcareersandcompanies.com.
“You are only one step away from potentially changing your life.”
“If your gut is telling you that, that's what it is. It's gonna be scary but you have to do it.”
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Kyle grew up in a family of educators and he thought his path was to be a lawyer, a doctor, or work on Wall Street. After graduating from college, he started working on Wall Street but soon realized that it wasn’t for him. In 2001, he decided to go after his dream of working in the restaurant business. Kyle graduated from The French Culinary Institute in 2002 and dove into the industry.
In 2007, Kyle co-founded 2 successful restaurant concepts in New York. After working in the restaurant business for 15 years with 55-60 hour workweeks, Kyle decided to use his expertise in another way. He transitioned to commercial real estate in 2020 and now works as a CRE advisor for restaurant owners.
“Ultimately people want to connect with people who they can relate to. Once you put out there who you are, you're gonna start attracting people you actually want to work with.”
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Kyle is very active on social media, and he coaches his clients on how to use these platforms creatively. Today, it’s important to be authentic and good at storytelling - just be yourself so you can attract people who can relate to you.
Kyle created an accountability group for CRE advisors where he helps them navigate the various social media platforms to get better at digital marketing.
The Final 3 Questions
Patience. He learned over time that the real reward and the real goal come with patience.
Authenticity and Community. For Kyle, community means education and networking. He learned a lot from different communities that he could use in his own career, so he encourages everyone to dive into different communities and learn.
That you can do what you want to do because there are options out there for you. You got to be your true, authentic self so you can start connecting and working with people who you enjoy working with.
About Our Guest, Kyle Inserra
20-year restaurant industry veteran meets working with emerging independent restaurants and franchise groups across the country providing ownership insight and solution-oriented energy.
Kyle started his career at Ogilvy & Mather as a media buyer, then switched careers and began working as a Financial Advisor at Prudential Securities when two planes hit the World Trade Center - and he realized he wanted to pursue yet another new career.
In 2002, Kyle graduated from The French Culinary Institute and worked his way around New York City, New Jersey, Mexico, and the Caribbean.
In 2007, Kyle co-founded two restaurant concepts in Westchester County, New York - eventually successfully exiting both businesses in 2021 and began to leverage his experience as an owner-operator to advise restaurant owners as a CRE advisor.
A warm thanks to Kyle Inserra for taking the time to share his unique insights and experiences with us.
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Welcome to the Growing Careers & Companies Podcast with Allison S. Weiss. We’re back with our first episode of the New Year! This episode is all about cultivating resilience and bouncing back from challenging times with some useful exercises and practices that can help you start the New Year right. If you’re in the process of planning out 2022, or facing some challenges at the moment, then this episode is for you!
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“When we can accurately define and recognize our emotions, we are one step closer to allowing them to visit, stay for a while, and then to pass.”
We’re excited to welcome you back in 2022 and a new season of the podcast. Today, we talk about resilience and bouncing back. Recently, we’ve had many conversations with people who are facing difficult challenges like this neverending pandemic, changes in the job market, or conflicts at work.
If you also had some challenges in your life recently, then we want to share a few tools and practices that can help you tackle these challenges and plan a brighter future.
A good practice is to name and acknowledge the emotions that you’re feeling. Underneath your frustration, there might be fear, anger, or jealousy.
“What do you really want to say to your friends, family, and yourself?”
“What do you need to forgive?”
“What do you need at this moment to move forward?”
Create a “Badass” list. Write down all the things that you give yourself credit for and all the challenges that you overcame. Practice self-love.
Reflect on the question: “What do you want to create?” These could be feelings, thoughts, or achievements.
Other helpful questions when planning your future could be: “What would a person who is successfully creating these things choose? What do you need to believe in order to achieve this vision?”
Draw and redraw boundaries and prioritize self-care.
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Welcome to the Growing Careers & Companies Podcast with Allison S. Weiss. Today, we have a very special episode for you with one of our favorite friends, collaborators, and commercial real estate experts, Garland Fuller. Garland and Allison are launching a workshop in 2022 that’s all about helping you to grow your career and your business in the upcoming year. They share the details on what you can expect and how you can enroll! If you’re ready to level up your career and reach your goals in 2022, then don’t miss out on this workshop!
For more information about the workshop visit: www.growingcareersandcompanies.com.
“It is our responsibility to show up so the people who need our help can find us.”
What are we up to?
Allison and Garland partnered up in the past on several fun projects, but now they came up with a great addition to their collaborations. They’re launching a 10-week live workshop in January of 2022. The workshop will be alternating between teaching, office hours, and implementation sessions. Participants will have ongoing access to recordings and online materials.
Enrollment begins the first week of January, 2022, and sessions will be held weekly beginning the second week of January in the evenings, likely starting at 4:30pmPT/7:30pmET.
Why are we launching this workshop?
Allison and Garland have gotten a lot of questions from people over the years about building a successful career or company. They decided to answer all these questions in an interactive way and launch a workshop.
Some of these questions are:
Allison and Garland’s goal is to empower folks to:
What you'll walk away with:
The Workshop is not a good fit if:
How to get more information and take the next step?
Schedule an enrollment call with Garland or Allison (links below).
We’d love to learn more about your situation to see if the workshop is a good fit for you.
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Our guests today are Daisy Serrano and Luc D’Abreau. This dynamic husband and wife duo is on a mission to help millennials grow generational wealth through multifamily investing. In this action-packed conversation, the couple shares their individual and collective “Why”, how they started investing, and the importance of empowering millennial investors. Tune in and get inspired!
Learn more about Daisy and Luc and their story at: www.growingcareersandcompanies.com.
“Being in a relationship is very different than working together. Being business partners has helped us understand each other on a very different note as well.”
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Daisy studied criminology and had a career in international education for about 10 years. She became interested in multifamily real estate when she started dating Luc, who already had a passion for investing. Luc has an engineering background and his family had a few single-family rentals growing up. After he read Rich Dad, Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki & Sharon Lechter, he knew he wanted to invest in multifamily.
Daisy and Luc opened a private equity multifamily investment firm, Make It Rain Capital. Luc focuses on the numbers and underwriting and Daisy is responsible for networking and building communities.
“You're gonna mess up stuff anyway because you don't know what you're doing, so you might as well “fail forward”...”
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Daisy and Luc started a podcast for Make it Rain and their goal is to help millennial investors learn more about real estate investing. Daisy explains that there are still not many opportunities for millennials, let alone women or Latinos in the multifamily world. Their goal is to change that.
The couple shares their “Whys” and the reason why they got into investing. Daisy’s family is from Mexico and her parents sacrificed a lot to provide a better life for her. She wants to reach financial freedom to be able to help her parents retire. Luc wants to make an impact and help people.
Daisy and Luc moved from Southern California to Austin, Texas in 2020. They’re working on building a community of investors there. Their plan for 2022 is to bring good opportunities to their investors and build a multifamily investing course.
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The Final 3 Questions
For Daisy, it was to gain confidence around their business and her abilities. For Luc, it was taking full responsibility for the business and the time of their employees and investors.
Purpose and Impact. According to the couple, their purpose is to impact people, so these principles go hand in hand. Their goal is to impact a million lives in their lifetime so they treat every interaction as an opportunity to make an impact.
That we are all extremely powerful people. If we weren’t strong as humans, then our ancestors wouldn’t have survived. We can accomplish anything collectively.
Practice self-love, keep your promises to yourself, and do things that are challenging.
About Our Guests, Daisy Serrano and Luc D’Abreau
Daisy serves as Managing Partner for Make It Rain Capital, a private equity multifamily investment firm focused on acquiring apartment properties.
Daisy is also a limited partner in 445 units in Central Texas (totaling $36.8MM in value). With over 10 years of experience in international education and management, she has worked with clients from over 25 countries and managed international government scholarship accounts totaling more than $10 million.
She is a leader with the Women’s Real Estate Network (WREN), Real Estate Association of Latinx Professionals (REAL), and Multifamily Masters Austin. She previously served on the Los Angeles Chapter Board of Prospanica: The Association of Hispanic Professionals.
Daisy’s goals are to help more people (especially millennials!) have opportunities to invest in real estate multifamily, uplift and empower her community through mentorship/access, be a positive role model for her family, and retire her parents.
She holds a Bachelor of Science in Criminology from the University of La Verne, a Master of Science in Higher Education from California State University, Fullerton, and a Business Foundations Certificate from Wharton University.
Luc is Managing Partner for Make It Rain Capital, a private equity multifamily investment firm focused on acquiring apartment properties.
He is a limited partner in 445 units across two assets in Central Texas (totaling $36.8MM in value), has 10 years of industry experience in commercial & residential construction projects valued at over $750MM, is part of the National Black MBA Association, African American Real Estate Professionals, and chapter co-leader for Multifamily Masters Austin. His goal in real estate is to create generational wealth, leave a legacy, and provide a better life for his family and community.
A native Californian, he now lives in Austin, TX with his wife and business partner, Daisy. He enjoys brewing specialty coffee, throwing kettlebells around, and cooking delicious meals.
He holds a bachelor of science in architectural engineering from California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo, a master of science in civil engineering from the University of California, Los Angeles, and a master of business administration from the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign.
A warm thanks to Daisy Serrano and Luc D’Abreau for taking the time to share their unique insights and experiences with us.
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Our guest today is Robert Nickell, serial entrepreneur, real estate investor, and founder and CEO of Rocket Station. In this special conversation, we talk about Robert’s career journey, how he built Rocket Station, and how it helps empower entrepreneurs. At the end of the episode, we also get to know Allison’s personal assistant, Jaja, who talks about her experience at Rocket Station. Don’t miss out on this action-packed episode!
Learn more about Robert and his story at: www.growingcareersandcompanies.com.
“I didn't care about cars and having a fancy lifestyle. I wanted to have freedom and control of my time.”
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Robert started his career in real estate. He always wanted to be an entrepreneur and to have more freedom, but he worked long hours as a real estate investor. Through a mentor, Robert learned about leveraging virtual assistants in the Philippines and he decided to try it.
Although his initial experience was rocky, Robert learned a lot about outsourcing and optimizing his process to get optimum results. This ultimately led him to open his own hiring and outsourcing business, Rocket Station in 2013.
“The right people in the Philippines servicing the right clients in the US, and we get to bridge that every day. There's not a whole lot more fulfilling than that.”
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Allison is a client of Rocket Station, and she shares her experience working with the company and how much it helped her business grow.
Back in 2019, when Allison left her corporate job to become an entrepreneur, she did everything by herself. By 2020, she knew that she needed some help in order to continue growing. Allison started working with Rocket Station and met her virtual assistant, Jaja, and the connection has been wonderful for both of them.
Robert is very passionate about Rocket Station’s customized approach to each of their clients, and the quality of their team members supporting their clients.
The Final 3 Questions
That he doesn’t have to do everything by himself in his business. He did that for many years and it limited him in many ways.
Values and Community. Rocket Station is a value-driven company and its mission statement is “enhance lives through better business.” Their core values are very important for them. Community is also crucial for Robert. His favorite phrase is “success is in the agency of others”.
Just take it one day at a time and outsource the tasks that don’t serve you. Become a little bit more efficient and productive every day and fix one problem at a time.
About Our Guest, Robert Nickell
Robert Nickell is an accomplished real estate investor and serial entrepreneur in the business process outsourcing industry. He is CEO of Dallas-based Rocket Station, which he founded in 2018. Rocket Station recruits and trains college-educated Filipino professionals to fulfill a variety of remote roles at small to mid-sized American companies. Under Nickell’s leadership, Rocket Station has become a multimillion-dollar company with 10% month-over-month growth since early 2020 and more than 700 Filipino team members.
Rocket Station is the second BPO company Nickell has founded. For four years, he co-owned Dallas-based Investor Virtual Assistant Services, which provided outsourcing services specifically to the real estate vertical. Previously, he owned Dallas realty investment firm Greenro Homes.
Nickell earned his BA in business and communications from Austin College in 2009.
A warm thanks to Robert Nickell for taking the time to share his unique insights and experiences with us.
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Welcome to the Growing Careers & Companies Podcast with Allison S. Weiss. Today, we prepare for the fast-approaching New Year and talk about some of our favorite practices, tips, resources, and thought-provoking questions around annual goal-setting & planning.
Let’s end the year on a positive note and begin 2022 in a position of strength and power!
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“Setting and achieving meaningful goals resides at the intersection of introspection and execution.”
2022 is only a few weeks away, and it’s a great time for introspection, reflection, and revelations - here are some concepts, ideas, and exercises to consider as you evaluate what's important for the year ahead:
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