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Join Alicia and Dr. Megan, anesthesiologist, to discuss Pain management options in Labour
Dr. Sonja Mathes, orthopedic surgeon, joins us to speak about this very common condition.
Alicia Power: Welcome to Growing Healthy Podcast! Today we are a lucky to have Dr. Sonja Mathes with us to talk about a very common problem….Osteoarthritis. Sonja is an orthopaedic surgeon here in Victoria and we will get to this discussion right after this little reminder! The Growing Healthy Podcast and website is meant for general medical information only. this does not apply to every situation. If you have questions, or if you have received different advice please contact your health care provider. The views expressed by growing healthy and our guests are not representative of any institution with which we are affiliated. Alicia Power: Sonja, Thanks for coming to talk to us today! SM: No problem Alicia, Thanks for having me!! This is a very common problem which I see every day…and I think it is important to get more info out there about it! Alicia Power: well lets get started!! Tell us a little bit about osteoarthritis. SM: Well, Osteoarthritis, or OA is the most common type of arthritis, and it affects millions of people world wide. It occurs when cartilgae, the protective coverings of ends of bones in joints, , breaks down. This starts with roughening of the cartilage, and it can go on to thin and get so thin that eventually the bone is exposed, causing bones to rub on bones.. This can cause pain, stiffness and swelling in joints. Some of the most common joints that are affected are the hands, hips, knees and spine. Alicia Power: Do we know why it happens? SM: Not entirely. We think that in part, it is worsened by asking the joint to do more - things like repetitive stress or use of a joint - some professions could increase this risk. But there are also some genetic factors that seem to play a role. Lifestyle factors can definitely increase the risk of OA.…… Alicia Power: What do you mean by lifestyle factors? SM: well weight certainly increases the risk of arthritis.The more we weigh the more force is put onto our joints with even simple activities such as walking. People who are significantly overweight have a 40 times higher risk of developing arthritis of their knees. Also the longer we have been using our joints, the higher the risk of OA is, so the older we are, the more risk we have of getting OA. Alicia Power: what about injuries? SM: yup certain injuries also can increase the risk of the cartilage breakdown leading to OA, this is often an issue in the knee and ankle where jumping and twisting injuries can cause damage that protective layer quite easily. Also certain abnormalities in the alignment of joints can increase the risk. Alicia Power: okay so age, repetitive use, obesity, previous injury or alignment issues in certain joints can all contribute to osteoarthritis….Is it more common in men or women? SM: it seems to be more common in women, but we aren't certain why that is. Alicia Power: all right so we have an idea what can cause it, and the symtpoms we get from it - joint pain, swelling and stiffness. But how do we know it is Osteoarthritis as opposed to another form of arthritis. SM: There is a pretty typical pattern for osteoarthritis, at the beginning a sharp stabbing pain associated with certain activities. Usually, the pain comes and goes when the arthritis is milder. This can progress to a more constant dull aching pain with periods of swelling and sharper pain which starts to affect daily function which can then progress to significant debilitating pain. Usually affecting one to two joints, as opposed to many as we can see with other types of inflammatory or autoimmune arthritis like rheumatoid arthritis. We can confirm our diagnosis with conventional xrays, and rarely we need other types of imaging if the symptoms are a bit different than we might expect. Alicia Power: its quite interesting, i've had some patients with minimal pain and severe OA on their X-rays and others with sever pain with what appear to be very minor changes. Would you say it is important in OA to manage the symptoms as opposed to the xrays? SM: yes, very much so. I always tell patients that we treat patients, not xrays. osteoarthritis can look and feel differently in everyone. So our goal is managing your pain and stiffness, to allow you to do the things you like to do! Alicia Power: Is there anything we can do to prevent it from happening, or from worsening if we do have it? SM: Almost all of us will develop arthritis in some joint as we age, but not all of us will have pain or symptoms from the osteoarthritis. Many people think that they should be less active to try to prevent worsening wear and tear on their joints, however, moderate activity is actually really helpful for managing symptoms. By keeping the muscles around a painful joint strong, you can take the pressure off the joint. Especially for osteoarthritis in the legs, using non or low impact activities like walking, cycling or pool based exercise can dramatically improve pain and stiffness. Alicia Power: If you do have it, and it is causing pain, how can we manage it? SM: Our goals with managing OA are to improve the pain, improve the patients function - i.e. what they can do day to day and to help slow down the progression of arthritis symptoms. i have already talked about the benefits of staying active It is important to lose weight if you are overweight or obese, as this decreases the stress on your joints. In fact by losing 10% of your body weight you can decrease your pain by up to 1/2! Pretty amazing! and great for so many aspects of your health as well. Using aids for walking - such as walking poles can help with hip or knee arthritis. Also sometimes braces can help to improve the way that the joint moves taking pressure off of the more damaged parts of the joints. Exercise and strengthening are very important - and the knowledge of a good physiotherapist or exercise prescription expert can be very useful. Alicia Power: okay so those are things that you can get started on even before seeing the doctor! Great…what about other ways of helping such as medication or surgery? SM: So generally if you have done the lifestyle changes and you are still experiencing pain we usually start with topical anti inflammatories or tylenol. If these are not effective then we move onto oral anti inflammatories as needed. these are used to treat the pain, they do not change the progression of the disease. Please make sure to stay well hydrated, and if you are using them more than occasionally see your family doctor to make sure your blood pressure is normal, and there are no reasons in your medical history why you should not be taking them. Occasionally we can use an antidepressant which is shown to help with some pain conditions, if you have mood concerns as well. Alicia Power: now what about injections into joints, such as steroids or hyaluronic acid - what I like to call a Lube job for the knee? SM: Well we can use steroid injections for an arthritic joint. This can work well if there has been a sudden worsening or flare of the arthritis. This isn't a permanent solution, but for many patients who are trying to delay or avoid surgery it can be an option. But it often wears off fairly quickly within two to six months. The lube job or Hyaluronic acid injections can help many patients with mild to moderate arthritis and can give longer benefit,maybe up to 10 months. They are expensive at up to 450 per injection but the studies show that not all patients benefit from them, but certainly I have had patients that have had good effect from this and it is relatively safe, so may be worth a try. Alicia Power: What about more natural substances people might be looking into. SM: well if you are going to try something, topical capscasin has some evidence to it, but can be irritating to the skin. And in some studies, oral fish oil and chondroitin have shown some positive benefits. Alicia Power: there is all kinds of talk about the anti - inflammatory nature of turmeric….do you know anything about this? SM: Well the active ingredient known as Curcumin has again some evidence for it, but it is poorly absorbed in our bowels, so you need to take a supplement that has been formulated to improve its absorption in our GI tract. Alicia Power: Great…so we spoken about lifestyle changes, medications and injections. What if none of these help and you are suffering daily and unable to do what you enjoy doing in life…what is the next step? SM: Surgery is an option for most kinds of osteoarthritis when patients have disabling symptoms. For most large joints - the shoulder, knee and hip - surgery to replace the joint, a joint replacement is the most effective option. Arthroscopic surgery through where a as small camera goes into the joint - usually ankle or knee - can used to "clean up" a joint if there is locking or cathcing in select patients. But most patients don't get any benefit from arthroscopic clean up and it is usually not recommended for arthritis. Total joint replacement surgery can have dramatic improvements in quality of life for patients who have advanced arthritis and are disabled. Joint replacement surgeries are big operations and although the majority of patients are satisfied, there are risks to the operations and not all patients are happy after having their joint replaced. About 20% of knee replacements and 9% of hip replacements report ongoing pain after surgery - so its important to have realistic expectations and know that you may not be entirely pain free after your surgery. If you have multiple painful joint, depression or other health issues, its more likely that you may have pain after a joint replacement. Alicia Power: OK so I think we have done a pretty good review of OA, are there any other pearls or tidbits that we haven't mentioned that you think are important for people to know about? Or any new treatments coming out? SLots of patient ask me about two newer types of treatments for arthritis - stem cell injections and platelet rich plasma injections. What we are all hoping for is a treatment that can grow new cartilage. However, this doesn't exist yet. Once the cartilage has thinned in arthritis, there is no way to bring it back. Stem cell therapy is still an experimental treatment that does not have any strong studies to support it yet. Platelet rich plasma injections has some studies that show benefit for patients with mild to moderate arthritis in the knee, it is still fairly experimental. I have seen many patients who have chosen to have these treatments and often spent a lot of money on them and not had any benefit, so i really encourage patients to talk to their physicians or an orthopaedic surgeon before they consider these treatments. Alicia Power: Well That is some great information! Thanks Sonja for coming on the Growing Healthy Podcast….it's a beautiful day out so i'm going to go do some moderate joint strengthening activity….So keep on Growing Healthy!Preparing for Birth
Whether it's your first pregnancy or your third as your due date approaches you begin to think more and more about what your labour is going to be like and if there is anything you can do to prepare…
AP: Dr. Sarah lea is a family doctor specializing in obstetrics and has specialized training in women's health. She is also the mother of three children and therefore is a double expert in preparing perineums for delivery!!!
SL: That's right Alicia/Dr. Power. I just had my third baby in November and the lead up to my delivery was actually the inspiration for this podcast. I have had difficult deliveries in the past so wanted to do everything I could in my power to prepare and make the labour as smooth as possible.
AP: That being said. Let's dive in. I'm curious what you came across in your research.
SL: Well, the first think I wondered about was how best to prepare the perineum (do we define what this is?) to minimize the risk of tearing and the need for episiotomy (? Define) and stitches following delivery. I know this is on everyone's mind regardless of whether it's your first delivery or your third!
AP: For sure…I know a few recommendations out there include perineal massage before labour. What did you find out about that?
SL: Well Alicia, the literature out there shows that for women who had never given birth vaginally before reduced the likelihood of perineal trauma (mostly episiotomy) and ongoing perineal pain. The evidence wasn't as clear for women who had had previous vaginal deliveries but on review of additional studies, although there is no clear benefit there is definitely no harm In doing so.
AP: That's fantastic news! So perhaps we should be letting our patients know about the benefits of perineal massage and provide them with some information about how to perform perineal massage.
SL: Absolutely! There are some great resources available and perhaps we could post them on our Show Notes.
AP: So what else did you find? I've had some women ask me about shaving in preparation for labour and delivery as a means to reduce risk of infection. Is this something we should be recommending?
SL: Interesting you should ask! This is a common myth and misperception that many women have and believe it or not there are even studies about this! The general consensus from the literature is that there is no benefit to shaving or waxing. It doesn't decrease the risk of infection, and can actually be associated with multiple side effects including irritation, itching/burning of the vulva.
AP: Now that you mention this I think I recall a colleague in another province saying they actually had a campaign a few years back called 'Leave the hair down there'. Just like American Apparel did!
SL: You're right. I'd say if a women gets regular bikini waxes there is no need for her to stop in pregnancy and around the time of delivery but I'd actually recommend against waxing and definitely tell patients if it's not something they routinely do there is no need for them to get it done!!!
AP: Excellent. So so far, we would recommend perineal massage for preparation but no neeed to shave or wax.
SL: Yout got it! I've also had women ask me about enema or 'bowel prep' before labor. And this is an understandable question as this is something that was routinely done in the past.
AP: Enema – something I think most people wouldn't look forward too.
SL: Agreed – and fortunately the evidence agrees too. No need for routine, or even 'elective' enema for that matter!
AP: Something I often have patients asking me is what they can do to help deliver on time and avoid going overdue. Some patients ask me about acupuncture. Do you have any thoughts about this?
SL: It just so happens I do! I have actually gone for acupuncture for cervical ripening in two of my previous pregnancies. I also took a look at the literature and it seems that there is a bit of evidence out there that acupuncture done by appropriately trained individuals MAY improve cervical readiness for labour, but the evidence is pretty weak. There hasn't been a lot of safety data but what has been reported hasn't show any harm.
AP: So it seems the limited research show so far no harm and possibly some improvement in cervical ripening?
SL: That's right Alicia. In addition to acupuncture which I often discuss with patients I've had people ask me about castor oil.
AP: Ah yes, castor oil I understand it can bring labour on but can also bring on a whole host of undesirable side effects, like your doctor trying not to vomit on your vagina as I you are delivery your baby into a puddle of diarrhea…..
SL: You're right there Alicia. And interestingly the evidence actually doesn't show any benefit as there hasn't been enough studies done but they have found that women reported more negative side effects including nausea and diarrhea. A few things you'd likely not want to experience before going into labour
AP: I've had two kids of my own so can definitely agree labour is hard enough without adding some GI upset in there. What about 'membrane sweeping or as I like to say "The old stretch and sweep"? I think this is something most of us at GROW offer our patients after 38 weeks. Can you comment on how effective this can be?
SL: Absolutely. For those listeners who don't know, a membrane sweep is when your doctor does a pelvic exam and passes a finger through the cervix and separates the amniotic sac or membranes from the uterus. There have been lots of studies looking into the effectiveness and it's been show to reduce the duration of pregnancies going post-dates (beyond 41+ weeks), and therefore avoiding induction because you are overdue.
AP: That's good to know since I know most of us offer this to patients. Did they say how many times it has to be done to be successful? Or if there were any negative side effects?
SL: I'm glad you asked. Membrane sweeping is safe and the most common side effects are bleeding and pain/cramping following the procedure, which you will also experience in early labour. And in terms of how many times, basically you need to do a membrane sweep on 8 patients to send one into spontaneous labour.
AP: I'd say that's a pretty decent number given how many patients we see and offer this to.
SL: I agree, and it's such a safe and low risk intervention that I think it's reasonable to offer to all women as long as they are aware of the likelihood of going into labour and to expect to experience some bleeding and pain following.
AP: That's what I do regularly in my practice, but good to know I'm following the evidence so I'll keep it up!
SL: So Alicia, there is a lot more to talk about but I think we've covered a few key topics people would want to know about when preparing to push, wouldn't you agree?
AP: I do! SO let's review. First things first, we should start recommending perineal massage and will put some resources up on our show notes. Secondly, we'll tell our patients no need to shave or go for a bikini wax and that doing so may actually increase their risk of infection and that they should 'keep the hair down there'!
SL: Totally. Thirdly, if people are hoping to avoid going overdue we can offer our patients a membrane sweep at term to try to induce spontaneous labour and avoid women going overdue and we can also chat about using acupuncture and advise that although more studies need to be done there is some evidence of benefit when it comes to cervical ripening but that they should avoid castor oil as a means to induce labour!
AP: Well, this has been educational and informative for me and hopefully for our listeners.
SL: Me too! I really enjoyed doing the research for this and look forward to joining you to chat about another topic soon!
Alicia Power: Great! Keep on growing healthy!
Perineal Massage Info:
https://scbp.ca/assets/documents/5_1_Perineal_massage_in_pregnancy.pdf
Pelvic Physio Victoria, BC:
http://www.physiotherapyvictoria.ca/laura-werner-pelvic-floor-physiotherapist/
http://www.shelbournephysio.ca/content/womens-health
http://risehealth.ca/services/#pelvic-floor-rehab-physiotherapy
AP: Welcome to Growing Healthy, today we are speaking with Di, a lactation consultant about what are the common issues that come up in the beginning of the breastfeeding journey, and how can you manage them. We will get to them right after this little reminder. The Growing Healthy Podcast and website is meant for general medical information only. this does not apply to every situation. If you have questions, or if you have received different advice please contact your health care provider. The views expressed by growing healthy and our guests are not representative of any institution with which we are affiliated. Di, welcome! Tell us a little bit about yourself…. AP: So lets talk about engoregment…what is it? and why does it happen? Di: Engorgement sure can be a surprise, the breasts can become quite a bit larger, firmer and feel uncomfortably swollen. The body is preparing for feeding the newborn throughout pregnancy and breast changes are usually noted as birth nears. Colostrum (the early milk) is present at time of baby's birth, but full milk production is waiting for the signal that babe is born. This is a hormonal signal to the brain. The placenta releases progesterone, which tells the brain that the baby is still in utero - "not born yet, don't start the full milk production yet". So the body is all set, but waiting for the delivery of the baby and the placenta and the drop in progesterone.The best analogy that I've heard from a recent course, is thinking of the placenta like the e-brake on a car...the car can be revving up, but it's not until the e-brake is released that the car can then drive on. So, baby is born, the placenta is delivered and it's a GO - the body now starts the full-on milk production. Over the next few days the volume starts to increase, the milk ducts fill and the breasts become full. This is also combined with extra fluid and therefore some swelling can happen. Thus, engorgement! Moms can help this process and try to reduce the extent of breast engorgement by feeding their babies "early and often". If we can keep up with the production of milk and the emptying of the breasts with shorter intervals in the early days, then the milk ducts hopefully won't become painfully full. AP: Are there any tips and tricks you can offer to women and their partners to help manage engoregement? If engorgement occurs, continuing to feed baby every 2 hours, cold cloths following feeds to reduce swelling and expressing the milk can be helpful. We need to be cautious with pumping or manual expression, however, that it is just to move the milk for mom's comfort and not to signal to the body to make even MORE milk. Interestingly, cabbage leaves can help alleviate engorgement. So, you peel off the leaves of a green cabbage, crush it a bit with a rolling pin and place in your bra a couple of times a day. As the cabbage wilts the components help to reduce engorgement. Use with a bit of caution, however, as it can also reduce milk supply if used more than twice a day. As with any challenges with breastfeeding, please seek help early if you're having trouble latching your baby. Sometimes, when the breasts are very full and firm, the baby may have difficulty staying latched or may slide down on the the nipple and cause pain. AP: Yes! So important to get help when you need it! and you are right about the nipple pain. Lets chat a bit more about that! For sure there is some adjustment to having a babe (or two or three) at your breast feeding frequently! Likely the number one reason that we see moms for BF help is nipple pain, and thankfully is usually is the BF challenge that we can most quickly resolve with a latch assessment. I once overheard a conversation between two women that it was advised to 'toughen up' the nipples by scrubbing them with a toothbrush ahead of time! Please do not think that there is any need to toughen up your nipples. Yes, to a certain extent it takes some 'getting use to', having your baby nurse for many hours in the day, but your nipples should not be bearing the brunt of this. Remember: babies Breastfeed, not "Nipplefeed" as they might with a bottle. Maybe we can talk more about achieving a deep latch in a moment. If you have pain with latching your baby, please seek a latch assessment by a skilled breastfeeding support person- whether that's your Doctor, Public Health Nurse or Lactation Consultant. We are all more than happy to help alleviate that pain on latching. You do not need to 'just push through and get used to it', generally if there's pain there's an issue we can help resolve. AP: Now it's not just a latch issue that can cause nipple pain…what are some of the other reasons that this can happen? There also might be other causes for nipple pain: if it's not just a latch correction, it might be something else going on with the nipple. For instance, there might be an overgrowth in yeast. We all have yeast, or candida, on our bodies and given the right environment it can have rapid overgrowth and cause discomfort. Symptoms of yeast overgrowth, or thrush, can include a burning discomfort on the nipples and areola, shiny, red skin on the areola and even some shooting pain following feeds. Anyone who has baked bread would know that yeast loves warmth, moisture, sugar and darkness-- all of these are present with soaked nipple pads, so change them out frequently and seek treatment options from your medical care provider. Thrush is generally easy to treat in the early stages. I have often heard that yeast pain described as like someone is stabbing you with a knife through your nipple into your back….not a pleasant experience! Definitely ask for help early! Sometimes, vasospasm may occur with the nipple either by the nipple being compressed during a feed and coming out looking blanched or occurring immediately after the feed. When vasospasm occurs after the feed it is generally a result of a latching challenge or a damaged nipple. Sometimes there are other conditions present like Reynaud's phenomenon. A woman may be aware that they have Reynaud's that shows up as vasoconstriction on fingers and toes and then it is exacerbated by breastfeeding. Keeping the nipples warm following a feed is key, either by immediate covering with a warm cloth or with your baby held to the breast. If this is not enough, speak to your doctor for other treatment options. AP: Raynaud's of the nipple is often worse in the colder months, and you are right ….warmth is very helpful. sometimes I even suggested hand warmers behind the nipple pads to provide some extra warmth! AP: Can we talk a little more about latch? Especially in those first few days it is soooooooo important to really focus on getting the best latch you can with your baby….. Absolutely, I agree that often we meet moms who have been so excited that their baby has latched on that they will endure any pain they might feel just to keep their precious babe feeding. As we've talked about, latch is key to successful breastfeeding. Over the last couple of decades we have realized that culturally we have been trying to breastfeed babies in a bottle-feeding position (as in, cradled in our arms on their back) and often we imagine that a mom's nipple should look like a bottle nipple. But, in fact, nipples can look very different and babies are born seeking to feed in a way that doesn't look like the classic 'bundled in your arms bottling position'. Babies are instinctively driven to seek out the breast by way of using all of their senses and all of their body. It's pretty cool to watch the videos on babes crawling up to latch onto the breast themselves, and although we might not have this exact experience, it is also very cool to watch your own baby seek out the breast by bobbing their heads around at the breast and batting their little hands around to initiate the letdown reflex. AP: It is great watching these videos! Lets post some in our show notes! What we know is that babies are 'ventral feeders' meaning that they are sort of 'hard-wired' to have their chests touching mom, ideally skin to skin. They tend to feel calmer, more regulated and focused on feeding when they are 'belly to belly, skin to skin' especially with the early feeds. We also know that the depth of the latch is important for both the comfort of mom's nipples and for the best transfer of milk. So, using gravity to babe's advantage, lying back and allowing baby to fall onto the breast during a feed is more productive than sitting straight up and having babe fall AWAY from the breast and onto the nipple during a feed. This is a little hard to describe without visuals, but we encourage moms to go with their intuitive, right-brain thinking when feeding their babies. One of the most impressionable talks I've attended over the last few years was from Nancy Mohrbacher (who has written several great breastfeeding books). She says something along the lines of, "just get comfortable and feed your baby, like in a TV watching position" to her breastfeeding patients. It is both mom and baby who need to 'learn' to acheive the best latch. Mom's can go with the comfort piece: if it hurts, is pinching or they're uncomfortable, then take babe off and try again. Babies learn by the best transfer of milk: the deeper on the breast they are, the more of a reward of milk they will get. Sometimes there can be difficulties with the latch due to baby's tongue shape, mom's breast shape (particularly with engorgement) or other barriers to achieving a deep and comfortable latch- again, please seek help, ideally in person. AP: Great! Some great tips…now we talked earlier about feeding often, especially in those first few days….Part of the reason babies need to do that is to help mom's milk come in and to signal to mom how much milk they need! One of the most common concerns that moms have is that they won't know exactly how much milk their baby is getting when breastfeeding. They may feel anxious about not feeding their baby enough, particularly when babies want to feed VERY often in the early weeks. It is completely normal for newborns to feed every 2hours, and sometimes clusterfeed in a way that feels like 'non-stop' for a few hours in a row. This does not mean that you don't have enough milk, it's just how newborns behave. We can determine if babies are getting enough milk at the breast by both their diaper output and weight gain. So, you will be given guidelines on what to watch for with both of these. For instance, we want to see that babies are peeing frequently (6-8 times/day by the time they are a week old) and that they are gaining appropriately. Your care provider will go over what healthy weight gain should look like for your baby. If your baby is sleepy, because of jaundice, for instance, you may need to wake your baby to feed. Human milk is designed for frequent feeds, and human babies are born needing to feed on cue. Another point that Nancy Mohrbacher makes is, remember that we are CARRY Mammals. Like chimpanzees and gorillas we are meant to carry our newborns and feed them often. We are not Follow Mammals like horses where the newborn needs to walk straight away and catch-up to their mom for a feed a few times a day, or Den Mammals that leave their newborns and return a few times to offer feeds in the den. We sometimes, collectively, like to think of ourselves as den mammals with creating lovely nurseries and cribs thinking that our newborns will politely sleep there and feed by the clock every 4 hours, (LOL) but our milk and our babies are not designed this way...so, know that it is completely normal when your newborn wakes up after an hour and a half to feed again. AP: Really glad you mentioned this….I think we all want to have a predictable schedule, including feeding times, and sometimes it gets there…but certainly not at the beginning….I asked a group of women once what they wish they knew in the first few days after giving birth…and one said…that if your baby seems hungry…feed it! don't try to stick to a 3 hour schedule! So for those parents who are struggling..what can we do to support them? Di: So glad you mention the importance of support! In regard to breastfeeding, specifically, moms can check-in with their care providers for BF assessment, book an appointment with a community professional for a BF consult (with public health or a lactation consultant). You can also connect with your local La Leche League group. Having adequate support in the early weeks is so important in general for new parents. It means, perhaps, the difference of a mom being able to spend quiet skin-skin time with their newborn, instead of needing to shop or cook. Or, being able to catch up on a bit of sleep to allow them recovery time from birth. Or, even just to be able to talk about how you are feeling and feel heard and not alone in your new parent struggles can make moms feel validated and supported. We encourage you to reach out to who you would identify as a support person. There are many community baby groups that you can attend to meet other moms, whether through Public Health, the rec centres, libraries or the monthly groups here at Grow Health. Connecting with your doctor or nurse about how you are coping is often the best way to start identifying your best supports. We are not meant to do this alone! AP: Great advice Di! It is hard to ask for help sometimes….but trust me you will not regret that you did! A little help early on in the journey can make a huge difference in your infant feeding experience, and our hope is that it makes it more enjoyable for both you and your wee one….We will put some links to resources in and around Victoria BC, so check them out….and in the meantime…..Keep on growing healthy! Victoria Public Health Units La Leche League Victoria Nursing pads Milkies milk savers Haakaa Milk saver
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