When everyone can generate AI content, taste and storytelling are the new performance metrics.

In this week’s episode of Growth Talks, Everett Butler, Head of Marketing at Lindy, joins host Krystina Rubino to unpack what it takes to bring a brand-new product category to market when there is no roadmap, no search volume, and no shared language.

With over fifteen years of experience scaling teams at Tesla, Uber, and Affirm, Everett shares how to apply first principles thinking to build a go-to-market strategy grounded in fundamentals, aligned with real customer needs, and focused on clarity over complexity.

Tune in to learn the key traits Everett looks for in modern AI marketers — and why taste, product-led storytelling, and genuine curiosity are more valuable than ever.

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If your messaging isn’t aligned with your product experience, you’re just buying churn.

In this week’s episode of Growth Talks, Jordan Hwang, VP of Marketing at OpenPhone (now Quo) joins host Krystina Rubino to unpack how B2B marketers can adopt a smarter growth mindset; one that prioritizes product alignment, experimentation, and trust.

With over 15 years of experience at fast-moving startups like Gusto andEvernote, Jordan shares how to translate product value into messaging that resonates, build buy-in for bold bets, and design experiments that create impactful insight, not just short-term results.

Find out how today’s most effective teams connect brand, product, and performance across every stage of the funnel.

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Brand is the promise you make to customers and the experience you deliver every time.

In this week’s episode of Growth Talks, Tamara Mendelsohn, former CMO of Eventbrite, joins host Krystina Rubino to share her marketing playbook for building brand value across every touchpoint.

From designing scalable growth loops to tracking the metrics that actually matter, Tamara breaks down the core drivers behind Eventbrite’s success and the mindset shift every marketer needs to drive long-term growth.

Find out how great marketers align brand and performance teams, choose the right signals, and use curiosity and customer insight to build brands people love.

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Not everything that drives growth shows up in Google Analytics.

IIn this week’s episode of Growth Talks, Matt Bahr, Co-Founder of Fairing, joins host Krystina Rubino how survey data is reshaping attribution, helping brands uncover what truly influences customer decisions in today’s complex media landscape.

Drawing on 15 years of experience from leading global e-commerce at Master & Dynamic to building Fairing, Matt shares why PR might matter more in an AI-driven world, how post-purchase surveys complement ad pixels, and the key strategies marketers need to move beyond the last click. 

Find out how Fairing is helping leading brands turn real-time insights into smarter strategies and long-term growth.

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Great work happens at the intersection of enthusiasm and conviction.

In this week’s episode of Growth Talks, Mallory Contois, VP of Growth at Maven, joins host Krystina Rubino to discuss her marketing philosophy for building brands and communities that people love.

Drawing on lessons from her time at Pinterest and Mercury, Mallory shares how a customer-first approach fosters genuine connection and lays the foundation for long-term success.

At Maven, Mallory is now focused on championing adult learning, bringing more smart people together to teach and learn from one another. And as Founder of The Old Girls Club, she unpacks why and how she’s built a thriving network where women in tech can connect, grow, and support one another.

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01:56 Lessons from Pinterest’s Early Growth

05:20 How Social Platforms Shape User Behavior

10:05 Leveraging Data for Smarter Marketing

12:12 Scaling Community on a Startup Budget at Mercury

17:02 Maven and the Future of Upskilling

20:06 Balancing Enthusiasm and Conviction in Work

32:24 How Old Girls Club Helps Women Thrive

46:23 Favorite Growth Marketing Non Hack

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Marketing today should be a team sport. The companies that thrive are the ones who align product and brand around a shared mission.

In this week’s episode of Growth Talks, Pranav Piyush, CEO of Paramark, joins host Krystina Rubino to share leadership strategies for aligning product, marketing, and finance to drive business success.

As a former marketing leader at companies like BILL and Adobe,  Pranav unpacks how to recognize growth plateaus, lead change with clarity, and foster high-trust relationships with finance.

From refining your brand-performance connection to activating your community as a true growth engine, this episode provides sharp insights for building a company that lasts.

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01:45 Importance of Product Market Fit

03:33 Navigating Organizational Shifts

08:26 Leading Through Growth Plateaus

13:25 Stakeholder Management as a CMO

20:33 Partnering with Finance for Success

29:45 Bridging Marketing and Data Teams

37:08 Knowing When to Pivot in Marketing

41:08 Why the Best Marketers Learn From Every Test

44:05 Step Into the Buyer’s Journey

46:23 Community as a Growth Non-Hack

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Great brands are built on one big idea. And every campaign and customer touchpoint should connect back to that big idea.

In this episode of Growth Talks, Katelyn Watson, CMO of Talkspace, joins Right Side Up Founder and host Tyler Elliston to share her marketing philosophy for building brands that last.

Drawing on more than 20 years leading growth at companies like Nurx and Shutterfly, Katelyn reveals how grounding your brand in customer insights, aligning teams around shared goals, and thinking like a performance marketer can unlock stronger partnerships, faster scaling, and sustained growth.

She also shares lessons from high-impact rebrands and authentic influencer campaigns that have helped her build trust, relevance, and long-term brand equity.

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01:54 Leading Brand Transformation 

08:15 How to Leverage Marketing Agencies 

11:30  AI’s Role in Brand and Marketing Strategy 

22:55 Strategic Partnerships for Scalable Growth 

29:38 Guiding Early-Stage Companies 

36:23 Influencer Marketing That Drives Results

38:40 Building Successful Long-Term Partnerships  

41:32  Measuring What Matters in Marketing 

46:25 Rethinking Organic Social Strategy

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"The B2B market is constantly shifting. Your ability to innovate and pivot quickly defines your competitive edge.”

In this episode of Growth Talks, we're joined by Cate Lochead, the former CMO o Snorkel AI whose career in B2B marketing leadership spans more than 25 years. She has held high-impact executive roles at companies like JumpCloud, DataStax, and Couchbase.

Cate shares her proven strategies for scaling global marketing teams, securing venture funding, and leading a company through a successful IPO. She explains why operational rigor, financial alignment, and a deep understanding of technical buyers are critical to sustainable growth.

Building on these foundational principles, Cate also offers a clear-eyed look at how the role of the marketer is evolving with AI, along with actionable insights on how to leverage new technologies to drive business success.

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Say “I don’t know” more often. Curiosity and humility make room for real alignment, better decisions, and stronger leadership.

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03:44 Balancing Innovation and Business Operations

06:32 The Importance of Alignment with Finance

09:25 Empathy in Leadership and Communication

12:10 Messaging Strategies for Technical Audiences

17:41 Successful Campaigns and Learning from Failures

29:12 Navigating Growth and Sustainability in Tech

33:45 Marketing’s Evolving Role in the Age of AI

39:54 The Enduring Value of In-Person Events

49:50 Navigating Fundraising and Marketing Roles

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"You can’t talk your way into success, your product has to be wonderful, and customers have to love it."

In the Season 2 premiere of Growth Talks, Jaleh Bisharat, fractional CMO at Skillshare, joins Right Side Up Founder and host Tyler Elliston, to share her CMO playbook built on two decades of leadership across companies like Eventbrite and OpenTable. She breaks down how CMOs can make an impact in their first 90 days and why strategic focus is one of marketing’s most powerful levers.

Jaleh also shares how to build high-performing teams and translate customer insights into strategy—drawing on early career lessons from Amazon, where she saw how a customer first mindset fuels lasting growth.

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00:00 Resilience in Action: Jaleh’s Journey to CMO Leadership

02:52 Navigating the First 90 Days as a CMO

06:05 Understanding Team Dynamics and Customer Insights

09:01 The Importance of Focus in Marketing Strategy

11:51 The Role of Product in Marketing Success

14:54 The Case for Fractional vs. Full-Time CMOs

28:16 Transitioning Roles: From Interim to Full-Time CMO

30:22 The Distinction Between Fractional and Full-Time CMOs

34:30 Core Principles of Effective Leadership

44:39 Customer-Centricity: Lessons from Amazon

46:04 Advising Companies: What Matters Most

47:41 The Value of Direct Customer Conversations

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"It’s not just about selling a product. It’s about creating a feeling people remember—and humor makes it unforgettable.”

In this special episode of Growth Talks with Krystina Rubino, we highlight our favorite growth non-hacks: the timeless strategies that drive real results, not just quick wins. It’s packed with smart insights, fresh perspectives, and valuable lessons for building lasting success.

Hear from marketing leaders like Chiyong Jones (VP of Brand Marketing, Kajabi), Deanna Dong (Former Head of Product Marketing, Writer AI), Ian Yung (Former SVP of Revenue, Tonal), Laura Brooks (Co-founder, Foundation Collective), and Shane Pittson (Co-founder, So-and-So Venture Studio) as they break down what it takes to drive real growth in today’s environment.

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00:00: Introduction with Krystina Rubino

00:32: Chiyong Jones: Humor as a Marketing Growth Tool

01:46:  Deanna Dong: Messaging in Product Marketing

02:50: Ian Yung: Seek Truth, Not Shortcuts

04:14:  Laura Brooks: Building a Strong Marketing Foundation

05:55: Shane Pittson: Balancing Brand and Performance

08:03: Closing Thoughts 

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