We’re thrilled to have Stephen and Leslie Shaw on the podcast today! If you're a fan of extraterrestrial discussions, this episode is for you. Stephen, a lifelong experiencer of the supernatural and extraterrestrial phenomena, shares his incredible story, which spans generations in his family. Leslie, his partner , also an experiencer, joins him as they delve into their insights.             

      Together, they’ve authored the book"Who They Are: And What They’re Up To", A fascinating exploration of the UAP phenomenon and its possible implications. You can find their book available now on Amazon (link below).

        Leslie Shaw was a journalist for 18 years. She is semi-retired and still works for the newspaper doing copy editing and page layout. She is a trained artist with a bachelor’s degree in experimental animation and ancient art history.

        Stephen is a retired acupuncturist, tai chi instructor and orchestral musician. They both have a lifelong love affair with the UFO subject. They are both UFO witnesses and Stephen and his very psychic family have been victims of the alien abduction phenomenon for at least 3 generations. They have spent 20 years researching their UFO book Who They Are: And What They’re Up To.

About the Book :UFOs. Millions of witnesses have seen them, thousands have been taken by them and hundreds of books describe them, but here for the first time there is a book that delves into the hardest questions concerning them. WHO are flying them, WHERE are they coming from and the all important whys; WHY are they here, WHY are they seen so often, WHY are they preying on our people and our livestock and WHY is our government in league with them? This book addresses these questions and explores the motivation for their agenda and their bizarre breeding program.

Amazon link to their Book https://www.amazon.com/Who-They-Are-What-Theyre/dp/B0BKCQ363C

You can find them on Instagram and Facebook, both @leslie.shaw.author, (Instagram page has a series about our experiences)

Website with excerpts and several blogs at www.whotheyarebook.com.

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