I was still obsessing about those discussions where an impasse is certain. You have your facts and I have mine and never the twain shall meet. That lead me to thinking about what is a fact and how do we deal with each other's facts? I must say that the conclusion surprised me some.

Note: The article referenced in the podcast was located at https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20210720-the-complexities-of-vaccine-hesitancy.