In season 2, episode 5 of Chasing the Vision, in partnership with Exit Strategies 360⁠ and Violand Management Associates, we dive into the side of business growth we avoid talking about—the emotional side. From scaling your company to planning an exit (or not), the journey is rarely just about numbers and strategy. It’s about identity, trust, fear, and learning when to listen to your gut.

JT Kraai and Tim Hull open up about the personal challenges behind professional decisions—sharing real stories of pressure, pivot points, and what it feels like to carry the weight of big moves. If you’ve ever wrestled with doubt, timing, or what’s next for your business, this one will hit home.