In this episode, Crystal brings together two friends who haven't spoken in years to share their journeys. Suzie tells us of her experience calling 911 as a little girl; while Erin's 6-year-old daughter was abducted and murdered. These experiences ignited their paths to do the work. Listen to this episode to hear why they stayed.

Suzie Walsh is a retired detective and practicing therapist. She co-developed the California Child Forensic Interviewing Curriculum (also known as CFIT).

Erin Runnion is the founder of The Joyful Child Foundation. To read and find more about her story and resources, check out her website at thejoyfulchild.org

To see this episode's transcript, visit our website at cirinc.org/cir-podcast/

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Music: Walk Together by Olexy

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