This teaser features a snippet of a conversation with Erin Runnion, founder of ⁠The Joyful Child Foundation, and Suzie Walsh, retired detective turned therapist. They come together for the first time in years to talk with our host, Crystal Cardenas, about what started their careers and how they stay caring and thoughtful amidst the pain of child sexual abuse.

Full episode will launch July 15, 2023.