Welcome to Happeo Unmuted, the podcast where we go beyond best practices to explore what really connects people at work. In this episode, Jesse Bourgeault-Trickey sits down with Roxanne Deevey, owner and chief strategist of DB Strategic Communications and two-time Gold Quill award winner, to discuss why internal communications keeps getting treated as an afterthought — and what it actually takes to change that.Roxanne brings decades of award-winning experience in the education and healthcare nonprofit sectors, and she doesn't hold back on the assumptions, habits, and organizational blind spots that quietly undermine even the best-intentioned comms teams.In this episode, Roxanne shares:
- Why communications gets cut first when budgets get tight — and how to prevent it
- How message mapping became one of the most quietly powerful tools in her practice
- Why organizations consistently overestimate how much employees care about executive activity
- What genuine consultation looks like versus just ticking a box — and why the difference matters
- The recognition-based inclusion campaign that won Gold Quills and got replicated by other school boards
- Why plain language is the advice everyone agrees with and almost nobody follows
- Why the CEO isn't always the best person for the interview
Whether you're an internal communications professional, a people leader, or someone trying to get leadership to take comms seriously, this episode is full of things worth writing down.
🔍 Timestamps
00:00 Intro
00:01 Roxanne's background and DB Strategic Communications
00:03 Why communications gets treated as a "nice to have"
00:04 The power of asking "why this, why now?"
00:05 What makes the chaos of the job worthwhile
00:07 Message mapping: what it is and why it works
00:11 How organizations overestimate employee interest in leadership
00:12 Red flags that signal a difficult project ahead
00:15 Why approval processes muddle communication
00:19 The "graa" inclusion campaign: recognition over moralizing
00:24 What genuine consultation actually looks like
00:27 The democratization of video and what it changed
00:29 AI's role in communications — and what it can't replace
00:34 Why plain language is harder than it sounds
00:37 Why the CEO isn't always the right interview subject
00:39 Closing thoughts
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