All Things Product with Teresa and Petra

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In This Episode:

  • Why Teresa sunset the live deep-dive cohorts—and how on-demand and the new Discovery Habits Toolbox better support real behavior change.
  • What leaders actually need to coach interviewing, assumption testing, and core discovery habits inside their orgs.
  • Why training is shifting toward ongoing, leader-supported learning (and how AI will accelerate the shift).
  • Teresa’s move into paid subscriptions and why AI content doesn’t fit the classic “design once, run for years” course model.
  • A sneak peek into the AI tools Teresa is building for discovery work—from interview coaching to near-ready interview snapshot generation.
  • Petra’s plans for the year: community building with Product at Heart, a new product leadership email course, her Product Leadership Wheel, and workshops launching in Cairo.
  • The role of conferences and retreats in staying grounded, inspired, and connected.
  • How Teresa is staying on top of academic research (and why “synthetic users” aren’t ready for prime time).
  • The shared challenge of evaluating vendors and conference speakers making questionable AI claims.
  • Key Takeaways:

    • Delivery models matter. Cohorts can be great, but some skills—especially discovery habits—require ongoing reinforcement inside the organization.
    • Leaders need coaching tools, not just training. Teams can’t apply discovery habits sustainably without managers who know how to guide them.
    • AI is reshaping how we teach and how teams learn. But it’s also creating a need for more rigorous evaluation of claims.
    • Experimentation is the theme of 2026. Whether it’s AI workflows, new product formats, or rethinking GTM for teaching tools, both Petra and Teresa are leaning into exploration.
    • Community still energizes. Conferences, workshops, and shared learning environments continue to play a key role—even for seasoned leaders.
    • Resources & Links:

      • Follow Teresa Torres: https://ProductTalk.org
      • Follow Petra Wille: https://Petra-Wille.com
      • Mentioned in the episode:

        • Teresa’s website: Product Talk
        • General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR)
        • Product Talk Academy
        • Deliberate Practice - ATP episode where Teresa talked about the ending live cohorts for Deep Dive classes
        • Teresa’s Discovery Habits Toolbox program
        • Petra’s A 52-Week Transformation Journey
        • Teresa’s Product Talk subscriptions (AI workflows + discovery content)
        • Claude Code
        • The Interview Coach by Teresa
        • Product at Heart Conference (Hamburg)
        • Petra’s Coaching Packages
        • Petra’s Ways We Can Work Together
        • Petra’s Product Leadership Wheel (PLwheel)
        • Petra’s Product Manager (PMwheel)
        • Prdkt+ MENA Product Summit 2026
        • World Beautiful Business Forum by House of Beautiful Business
        • Melissa Suzuno
        • Vistaly (Teresa’s integration partner for some upcoming AI tools)
        • Teresa’s Just Now Possible podcast
        • ...more
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          All Things Product with Teresa and PetraBy Petra Wille & Teresa Torres