Look at the world through the eyes of a former F-16 pilot and Department of Defense official about the intersection of energy and national security.

Today's guest, Dave Belote, is a retired Air Force colonel and F-16 pilot who earned two Bronze Stars during Operation Iraqi Freedom and served as commander of Nellis Air Force Base near Las Vegas, Dave remains committed to public service. He has run unsuccessfully to represent his hometown in the Virginia State Senate and recently completed a 3-year term as secretary of the Virginia Beach Electoral Board. He is a founding director of the Southeast chapter of Environmental Entrepreneurs and serves on the board of the Southeastern Wind Coalition. He is also a five-time Jeopardy! champion.

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