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Can healthier soil produce better wine? What happens when a family vineyard spends generations working with nature instead of against it?
In this episode of Harvesting Wisdom, host Mike McMahon visits Château Nodot in the Blaye Côtes de Bordeaux appellation to speak with vineyard owner Jessica Aubert. Her family has cared for the estate for more than 200 years, and for the past 16 years Jessica has continued their commitment to organic practices while leading the vineyard's transition into biodynamic farming.
Jessica explains how biodynamic agriculture has improved soil health, strengthened biodiversity, increased resilience to climate change, and enhanced the quality of their wines. From cover crops and herbal preparations to forest conservation and natural pest management, this conversation highlights how healthy ecosystems create healthier farms.
You'll also learn about:
- The differences between organic, biodynamic, and regenerative agriculture
- How living soil supports healthier vines
- Biodiversity, pollinators, and natural pest control
- Climate change challenges facing vineyards today
- Biodynamic preparations and seasonal farming practices
- Why protecting forests and natural habitat matters for agriculture
Whether you're a gardener, farmer, wine enthusiast, or simply interested in sustainable food systems, this episode offers practical insights into farming with nature while preserving the land for future generations.
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Why Listen?
Healthy soil is the foundation of resilient agriculture, and this episode offers a real-world look at what that means in practice. Jessica Aubert shares how biodynamic farming has helped her family vineyard improve soil biology, protect biodiversity, and adapt to changing environmental conditions. Whether you're interested in regenerative agriculture, sustainable gardening, or simply curious about how great wine begins in the vineyard, you'll come away with valuable insights that extend far beyond wine.
00:00 – Welcome to Harvesting Wisdom & introduction to Château Nodot
00:41 – Meet Jessica Aubert and her family's 200-year-old Bordeaux vineyard
01:15 – The grape varieties grown at Château Nodot
03:10 – Why the vineyard transitioned to biodynamic farming
04:04 – Jessica's journey from banking to vineyard management
05:03 – Managing a vineyard year-round and today's wine market challenges
06:01 – Why wine consumption is changing around the world
07:00 – Shipping wine internationally and Bordeaux's unique terroir
08:28 – How biodynamic farming transformed the vineyard's soil
09:39 – Biodynamic farming vs. regenerative agriculture
10:37 – Does the moon influence plant growth?
11:17 – Biodynamic preparations explained
14:06 – Using herbs and natural teas to prevent vineyard diseases
15:26 – Creating natural soil amendments
16:06 – How biodynamic preparations are made and applied
18:15 – Best conditions for applying biodynamic treatments
19:04 – Climate change and its impact on grape production
20:31 – Managing vine growth for healthier grapes
22:23 – Building resilience through soil biology
23:59 – Organic matter, water retention, and healthier soils
24:57 – Why biodiversity matters below the surface
25:33 – Cover crops, clover, and supporting pollinators
26:07 – Bees, biodiversity, and natural ecosystems
27:03 – Preserving forests around the vineyard
29:03 – The economics of organic and biodynamic farming
29:49 – Future plans for grazing sheep in the vineyard
31:10 – Managing weeds without herbicides
32:32 – Why biodynamic grapes produce richer wines
33:13 – Working alongside conventional vineyards
35:27 – Jessica's vision for biodiversity and the future of wine
36:32 – Closing thoughts & thanks for watching