Carl and Mark revisit their conversation in regards to the Pirates pulling Jared Jones while he was in the midst of a perfect game as Mark explains he believes the Pirates should have allowed Jones to have a shot at making history. As Carl responds, he noted that while he loves to see history being made, he was fine with the Pirates decision because he believes the Braves may not have won the game had Jones remained in the game. Carl also explains that with Jones having had the same procedure as Spencer Strider, he understands why the Pirates were cautious with Jones.