Syntax - Tasty Web Development Treats

Hasty Treat - Getting Buy-in for a Tool Like Prettier From Your Team


Listen Later

In this Hasty Treat, Scott and Wes talk about getting buy-in from your team when using new tools.

LogRocket - Sponsor

LogRocket lets you replay what users do on your site, helping you reproduce bugs and fix issues faster. It’s an exception tracker, a session re-player and a performance monitor. Get 14 days free at logrocket.com/syntax.

Show Notes

02:53 - Q: "I wrote a long message to our architect asking if I could install prettier into our component generator for new projects moving forward, and the response I got was: “Don’t auto-format, not all devs want that and prettier doesn’t always format the way I like, I don’t want to enforce that on devs.”

This sucks because I know the codebase would benefit so much. Right now every time I visit a project so much of the code is not spaced out that it makes it hard to read quickly for me, lots of the React code is bunched up with no spacing - it’s a mess to read for me especially because I am very organized. If this was your situation where you know a new tool/standard is something that can help a lot but it’s shot down, do you just give up? I don’t know how to respond to this because I am the only dev who has ever proposed this at my company and I just started here.

05:03 - Lots to unpack here

  1. Some senior devs don’t like getting suggestions from other devs. There is a sense that these things change quickly and I bet there is some anxiety over that at play here.
  2. Senior devs know better than to slap new tools into the codebase because they have probably done it and regretted it. What if it broke your code.

08:20 - So what can you do?

  1. Ask for their thoughts on a tool instead of suggesting it - it seems you have done this already
  2. Show the dev that even though it looks weird, it’s better for readability.
  3. Look at existing guidelines and try to match the settings as close as possible (not always an option with prettier).
  4. Put together a solid argument for it, written down.
  5. Use it in a smaller project. Everyone is against prettier at first, but once they use it, they realize how amazing it is.
  6. Can you just Prettier the code yourself and then format it otherwise before you check it in? This depends on if you have existing formats.
Links
  • Prettier
  • js-beautify
  • Tweet us your tasty treats!
    • Scott’s Instagram
  • LevelUpTutorials Instagram
  • Wes’ Instagram
  • Wes’ Twitter
  • Wes’ Facebook
  • Scott’s Twitter
  • Make sure to include @SyntaxFM in your tweets
  • ...more
    View all episodesView all episodes
    Download on the App Store

    Syntax - Tasty Web Development TreatsBy Wes Bos & Scott Tolinski - Full Stack JavaScript Web Developers

    • 4.9
    • 4.9
    • 4.9
    • 4.9
    • 4.9

    4.9

    977 ratings


    More shows like Syntax - Tasty Web Development Treats

    View all
    Software Engineering Radio - the podcast for professional software developers by team@se-radio.net (SE-Radio Team)

    Software Engineering Radio - the podcast for professional software developers

    272 Listeners

    Hanselminutes with Scott Hanselman by Scott Hanselman

    Hanselminutes with Scott Hanselman

    383 Listeners

    The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source by Changelog Media

    The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source

    290 Listeners

    Software Engineering Daily by Software Engineering Daily

    Software Engineering Daily

    622 Listeners

    Talk Python To Me by Michael Kennedy

    Talk Python To Me

    584 Listeners

    Soft Skills Engineering by Jamison Dance and Dave Smith

    Soft Skills Engineering

    288 Listeners

    Thoughtworks Technology Podcast by Thoughtworks

    Thoughtworks Technology Podcast

    43 Listeners

    Python Bytes by Michael Kennedy and Brian Okken

    Python Bytes

    215 Listeners

    The freeCodeCamp Podcast by freeCodeCamp.org

    The freeCodeCamp Podcast

    487 Listeners

    CoRecursive: Coding Stories by Adam Gordon Bell - Software Developer

    CoRecursive: Coding Stories

    189 Listeners

    Practical AI by Practical AI LLC

    Practical AI

    204 Listeners

    The Stack Overflow Podcast by The Stack Overflow Podcast

    The Stack Overflow Podcast

    63 Listeners

    The Real Python Podcast by Real Python

    The Real Python Podcast

    141 Listeners

    PodRocket by LogRocket

    PodRocket

    60 Listeners

    Oxide and Friends by Oxide Computer Company

    Oxide and Friends

    66 Listeners