Jim and Matt are joined by Badgers legend and new HBCU national champion Chris Orr! Chris talks about winning the national championship as the linebackers coach at Jackson State this past weekend, his journey from training in the UFL to taking the job at Jackson State and how his connection to former Badgers DC Dave Aranda led him there. Matt can't help but ask Chris for his thoughts (from afar) on last season's Badgers team and what their biggest issue was. They also discuss the breaking news that Will Pauling and C.J. Williams are leaving the program, and Chris answer the question about whether more restrictions are needed for NIL or the portal? Chris wraps up naming some of his biggest influences as coaches and his dream job of one day coaching with his brothers!