So, we have some news to share with you…

We're pressing pause on the podcast as we focus on the next chapter of our lives. With our surrogacy journey entering a new stage and Leo getting ready to start big school, we want to take the time to be fully present as a family during what feels like a really special time together. 

In this episode, we reflect on the last 25 episodes and everything this podcast has given us. It's changed us not only as individuals, but as a couple too. We've shared the highs, the lows and plenty of conversations that weren't always easy to have, but we've never wanted to shy away from being honest. If there's one thing we've learnt, it's that relationships take work, communication and a willingness to have the conversations that aren't always easy. Looking back, those moments have only made us stronger.

Finally, we want to say the biggest thank you to every single one of you who has listened, supported us and become part of the He Said, She Said community. Whether you've been here from the beginning or found us somewhere along the way, we're so grateful you've shared this journey with us.

Thank you for listening, and we hope you enjoy this season finale 🤍

🩵 Follow us everywhere

 Instagram | TikTok | Youtube @hesaid.shesaid.podcast

And of course… don’t forget to subscribe, follow, rate and review.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

"Maternity system is fundamentally broken." It's a headline that understandably caught the attention of parents across the country last week. Following the publication of the landmark maternity report, Louise reflects on her campaigning for safer maternity care, unpacks what the findings really mean, and explains why the appointment of a Maternity Commissioner marks a significant step forward. Despite the alarming headlines, her message is clear: women should come away feeling hopeful, not fearful.

Ryan also opens up about a parenting moment that left him questioning whether he'd handled things the right way. Reflecting on the experience, he shares what he learned about helping children navigate disappointment, the pressure parents put on themselves, and why listening instead of rushing to fix things is often the most powerful approach.

Plus, Louise and Ryan share how putting the 7-7-7 relationship rule into practice is helping them protect quality time together and strengthen their relationship.

🗓 New episodes every Wednesday

📩 We’ve got a NEW email!

Want to get involved? Email [email protected] or slide straight into our DMs @hesaid.shesaid.podcast.

We want it all. Your dilemmas, questions, voice notes, stories and opinions. If it’s pod-related, we’re listening.

🩵 Follow us everywhere

 Instagram | TikTok | Youtube @hesaid.shesaid.podcast

And of course… don’t forget to subscribe, follow, rate and review.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week, Louise and Ryan share an exciting update on their fertility journey, opening up about where things stand now and the possibility of welcoming a baby next year. They reflect on the emotional highs and lows along the way, with Ryan sharing a powerful moment of acceptance as he talks about finally feeling at peace with the surrogacy journey.

They also catch up on life outside of it all, including Ryan’s Father’s Day event and Louise’s recent trip to a wedding, which sparks a wider conversation about modern wedding etiquette. From whether it is ever right to bring children to a wedding, to the fairness of destination weddings.

Plus, with the World Cup in full swing, they react to the controversy around a player returning home for the birth of his daughter, and unpack the wider role of men during childbirth. They also dig into the proposed under 16 social media ban, asking whether it will actually help or whether it simply shifts responsibility elsewhere.

🗓 New episodes every Wednesday

📩 We’ve got a NEW email!

Want to get involved? Email [email protected] or slide straight into our DMs @hesaid.shesaid.podcast.

We want it all. Your dilemmas, questions, voice notes, stories and opinions. If it’s pod-related, we’re listening.

🩵 Follow us everywhere

 Instagram | TikTok | Youtube @hesaid.shesaid.podcast

And of course… don’t forget to subscribe, follow, rate and review.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week we're joined by relationship expert and Celebs Go Dating coach Anna Williamson. As Sam and Pete's former dating coach, we had to get the inside scoop on what they were really like behind the scenes, and Anna shares a few stories that Louise and Ryan may not have heard before.

The conversation then takes a more personal turn as Anna gives us some powerful techniques for reconnecting as a couple, leading to an honest discussion about therapy and relationships. For the first time, we open up about a recent reset in our own relationship, and Anna reminds us that every couple faces challenges and that asking for help is often the first step towards moving forward.

We also discuss why so many relationships struggle after having a baby, the biggest reasons people cheat, and why more people than ever are searching for deeper meaning and connection in their relationships.

🗓 New episodes every Wednesday

📩 We’ve got a NEW email!

Want to get involved? Email [email protected] or slide straight into our DMs @hesaid.shesaid.podcast.

We want it all. Your dilemmas, questions, voice notes, stories and opinions. If it’s pod-related, we’re listening.

🩵 Follow us everywhere

 Instagram | TikTok | Youtube @hesaid.shesaid.podcast

And of course… don’t forget to subscribe, follow, rate and review.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week’s episode is a special Father’s Day edition, and one Ryan certainly wasn’t expecting. What begins as a conversation about fatherhood takes an emotional turn when a surprise message from his dad leaves him completely speechless, and the whole room fighting back tears.

Also, as Ryan becomes an uncle for the fifth time, he opens up about the complex reality of holding multiple emotions at once. While celebrating a joyful family milestone, he reflects on how moments like these can also stir memories and feelings from the past of their own difficulties with fertility. This leads to a thoughtful conversation about comparison, gratitude, and how two seemingly conflicting emotions can exist side by side.

And we also get into a little domestic debate as Louise enters her DIY era, sparking whether building work is a blue or pink job.

🗓 New episodes every Wednesday

📩 We’ve got a NEW email!

Want to get involved? Email [email protected] or slide straight into our DMs @hesaid.shesaid.podcast.

We want it all. Your dilemmas, questions, voice notes, stories and opinions. If it’s pod-related, we’re listening.

🩵 Follow us everywhere

 Instagram | TikTok | Youtube @hesaid.shesaid.podcast

And of course… don’t forget to subscribe, follow, rate and review.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week, Louise and Ryan dive into the topic of argument styles and quickly discover they have very different views on how each other handles conflict. What starts as a conversation about communication soon turns into a debate of its own, with the retelling of one of their most recent disagreements...

They also discuss a recent BBC Panorama documentary on failures in maternity care that left a lasting impression on them both. The conversation prompts a deeply personal reflection on the trauma they've experienced individually, and the lasting impact those experiences continue to have on their lives and perspectives today.

Plus, they unpack the rise of the "tradwife" movement and question whether influencers such as Nara Smith are simply showcasing a lifestyle choice or promoting a narrative that risks undermining decades of progress for women. As the trend continues to gain popularity online, Louise and Ryan explore the messages the younger generation may be absorbing from the content they consume every day.

To learn more about surrogacy you can listen to Louise's spotify playlist here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3qgrqRti3zcQUGAplzZ8Hn?si=hes16EoRSZWrw6pmmKjzIQ

🗓 New episodes every Wednesday

📩 We’ve got a NEW email!

Want to get involved? Email [email protected] or slide straight into our DMs @hesaid.shesaid.podcast.

We want it all. Your dilemmas, questions, voice notes, stories and opinions. If it’s pod-related, we’re listening.

🩵 Follow us everywhere

 Instagram | TikTok | Youtube @hesaid.shesaid.podcast

And of course… don’t forget to subscribe, follow, rate and review.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week, Louise reflects on the often-unspoken reality of rebuilding confidence in your body after motherhood, opening up about her journey back to exercise and the ways becoming a parent has changed her perspective on beauty, self-care and the messages young girls are absorbing from the modern skincare industry.

Ryan discusses why sport matters far beyond the game itself, particularly for men, and how major events like the World Cup can create powerful opportunities for connection, belonging and conversation.

Plus, a listener question about the best advice they've ever been given leads to one of their most honest discussions yet, as Louise shares the complex emotions she's experiencing while facing the possibility that her family may be complete.

🗓 New episodes every Wednesday

📩 We’ve got a NEW email!

Want to get involved? Email [email protected] or slide straight into our DMs @hesaid.shesaid.podcast.

We want it all. Your dilemmas, questions, voice notes, stories and opinions. If it’s pod-related, we’re listening.

🩵 Follow us everywhere

 Instagram | TikTok | Youtube @hesaid.shesaid.podcast

And of course… don’t forget to subscribe, follow, rate and review.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week, Louise and Ryan dive into the conversation sparked by a viral Vogue article about a woman becoming a mother at 49 and calling it the most self-aware decision she’s ever made. It opens up a bigger discussion around the pressure to have children “on time”, and the realities of having kids later in life, from the unexpected benefits to the challenges no one really talks about. 

Then, with Rivals Season 2 back on our screens, they chat all things dinner parties… which leads Louise to revealing her time on Come Dine With Me alongside the rest of the MIC cast. So we do a live reaction to a clip of her time on there....

Plus, there’s an M&S sweet taste test, reactions to Venezuela Fury’s wedding choices and the wild things we'd choose on our own wedding day if there was zero judgement, and a listener dilemma about what we’d do if Leo covered the bedroom in make-up?!

🗓 New episodes every Wednesday

📩 We’ve got a NEW email!

Want to get involved? Email [email protected] or slide straight into our DMs @hesaid.shesaid.podcast.

We want it all. Your dilemmas, questions, voice notes, stories and opinions. If it’s pod-related, we’re listening.

🩵 Follow us everywhere

 Instagram | TikTok | Youtube @hesaid.shesaid.podcast

And of course… don’t forget to subscribe, follow, rate and review.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week, Louise comes straight off the back of the BAFTAs with a very unexpected red carpet moment, bumping into someone from her past she hasn’t seen in over a decade....👀

Louise and Ryan then reflect on their individual moments with Leo over the weekend, and they share what they each learn from him. From the power of being silly, to slowing down and seeing the world through his eyes, they reflect on how much their son continues to teach them. Ryan also shares more on his weekly letters to Leo, and opens up about how a recent failure has shifted his perspective.

And finally, we get into a more serious conversation around the rise of the manosphere and voices like Clavicular, unpacking the world of looksmaxxing and the impact it’s having on teenage boys growing up online. We share our honest thoughts on the pressures, the damage, and what it means to raise children in the middle of it all.

🗓 New episodes every Wednesday

📩 We’ve got a NEW email!

Want to get involved? Email [email protected] or slide straight into our DMs @hesaid.shesaid.podcast.

We want it all. Your dilemmas, questions, voice notes, stories and opinions. If it’s pod-related, we’re listening.

🩵 Follow us everywhere

 Instagram | TikTok | Youtube @hesaid.shesaid.podcast

And of course… don’t forget to subscribe, follow, rate and review.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week, Louise and Ryan head straight from egg retrieval into the podcast chairs, so there’s no better place to start than a real-time update on their fertility journey. What follows is a raw and incredibly honest conversation about how they’re both actually feeling through the process. Louise opens up about feeling unsupported at times, while Ryan shares how difficult he’s finding it to be the support system she needs while navigating his own emotions too.

We then move onto some of the hot topics in the news this week, from the controversies surrounding the Met Gala to the shocking statistic that 1 in 4 children are reportedly not potty trained by the time they start school… which leads to a bigger conversation about where the responsibility really lies.

And we end on a very sweet listener question from a dad wondering which public bathroom is most appropriate to take his young daughter into.

🗓 New episodes every Wednesday

📩 We’ve got a NEW email!

Want to get involved? Email [email protected] or slide straight into our DMs @hesaid.shesaid.podcast.

We want it all. Your dilemmas, questions, voice notes, stories and opinions. If it’s pod-related, we’re listening.

🩵 Follow us everywhere

 Instagram | TikTok | Youtube @hesaid.shesaid.podcast

And of course… don’t forget to subscribe, follow, rate and review.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.