Brent and Corey welcome friend of the show Anthony Pedersen (Octopus/Caveman) to talk about 1990's Jacob's Ladder, terrorist trading card NFTs, Mr. Hands, Keeping Up with the Skywalkers, creating your own meaning in life, and how Chuck Norris should just grow the eff up already. Put Head Cannon into your death montage experience and let's go! ALSO, check out Octopus/Caveman's new album Wolf in Love!!!