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"I feel nervous" and "I have anxiety" can describe the same moment — but one names an experience, and the other starts to name you. That difference may be impacting your life more than you realize.
In part two of this conversation, Katie and Josh continue with Andie, moving from EMDR into something just as foundational: the words we use to describe our pain. They talk about what "trauma" actually means in a culture that's started applying the word to everything, the difference between describing an experience and naming an identity, and why kids who never get to struggle through something hard end up more fragile, not less. They also get into where the "healing journey" can quietly become a ditch, and the moment Andie knows a client is finally ready to walk out her door for good.
In this episode:
Big T trauma vs. little t trauma — and why the distinction actually matters
The "healing journey" ditch: when self-focus quietly becomes the thing keeping you stuck
The case for letting kids experience hardship
Why Andie says an AI-generated summary of your problems is the opposite of progress
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