Ilay Karateke, co-founder of Bezi, joins us to talk about building Labneh into America's next big CPG category — starting with the manufacturing edge that makes it possible. Her co-founder comes from one of Turkey's largest cheese-making families, and that partnership gave Bezi a custom dairy process most competitors can't replicate: double the protein, two and a half times the shelf life, and ownership of their supply chain. We dig into why that operational moat matters more than branding in the early innings, how Ilay is borrowing lessons from hummus's rise without repeating its mistakes, and why she's deliberately staying hyper-focused in New York instead of chasing national scale. We also talk about resisting the pressure to raise big and spray marketing dollars everywhere, and what she's watching for before Bezi goes wide.