It's Yalda Night, which means it's been four years since we started the podcast! And in those four years, Hafez is still figuring out what life is worth and how to be content.

“You can’t sit with us!”

What does Hafez say when he gets the Mean Girl treatment?

We took so long between episodes that we ended up recording this with iPads! But we have a very special subject, because in this poem, Hafez talks to a wine-vendor! And in doing so, cuts straight to the heart of his philosophy on life, which is itself a reflection of one of the most enduring realities of Iran’s existence.