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Let’s just admit it right up front. We’ve all done it, even the spiritual coach over here. So the question we wanted to sit with is how to get a little better at it.

A little birdie brought this one to us. Gossip came up in one of our chats, and we realized it’s neither good nor bad. It knits our communities together, and it can also tear a friend group apart. Mariah watched that happen when her daughters realized the friend running the gossip show in their circle was talking about each of them behind their backs.

Most of us were never taught where the line is. Either you stay quiet and hear “I just assumed you knew,” or you go too far and feel icky afterward. So we sat down to build a framework for healthy and unhealthy gossip, and we got pretty honest about our own habits along the way.

WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT

Gossip, venting, processing, and sharing information are different things, and the why behind them matters most.

We gossip to connect, to get perspective, to feel validated, out of curiosity, and sometimes for pure entertainment. Comparison and jealousy are where it starts to turn.

Create a safe container. Tell the person why you’re sharing and what you need from them.

When someone shares something with you, ask what they’re comfortable with you passing on.

If the story is about someone’s downfall, look inward. Celebrating someone’s win is a whole different thing.

Run the gossip checks. Is it true? Is it mine to share? Why am I sharing it? Would I say it if they were standing right here?

At work and in families, clear boundaries around what gets shared keep things from turning toxic.

OUR FAVORITE QUOTES

“Is this something I would say if the person was standing right here?”

“Am I talking about this person because I need help, or because I want an audience?”

“Sometimes the person that we’re talking about isn’t the person we’re actually talking about.”

“An attachment is better than no attachment. I will say, no attachment is better.”

“Keep the entertainment value with the celebrities.”

CHAPTERS

00:00 A little birdie told me

02:13 How our relationship with gossip is changing

06:43 Yes, we’ve all done it

14:06 Creating the safe container

18:34 Can I share this?

22:12 When gossip is really a mirror

33:35 The gossip checks

35:23 Gossip at work and in families

YOUR TURN

The next time you’re talking about someone who isn’t in the room, pause and ask yourself: What is this conversation really about, and why am I actually sharing it?

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This one got personal fast. Mariah opens up about the therapy session that showed her what was missing from her priority list, and why she recorded this episode the day before taking her second daughter to college.

Monique shares what it took to let go of an old identity, and the moment she realized her calendar was full of things that weren’t moving her toward what she wants. We even put ourselves in the hot seat with five questions you can use for your own commitment audit.

WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT

Wanting something and committing to it are very different. A commitment is what lets your life start organizing around what you want.

Your calendar, your bank account and your phone will tell you the truth about where your commitments really live.

The commitment to yourself is often the hardest one to keep. When you put yourself at the top of the list, everything else can fall into order behind it.

Some commitments are hidden. People pleasing, always being the responsible one, staying busy, perfectionism and old identities can quietly run the show.

Commitment has a cost. It might ask you to give up comfort, approval, excuses, spontaneity or the fantasy of keeping every option open.

Limbo is the worst place to live. Pick a direction, commit, and let it play out.

You don’t need a giant promise. One day at a time counts.

OUR FAVORITE QUOTES

“The commitment is ultimately what you need to make in order to get what you might want.”

“I owe myself first and foremost.”

“You can’t make a commitment to something with one foot in the old paradigm.”

“Helping yourself is not selfish.”

“Make the commitment and the other pieces will fall into place.”

CHAPTERS

04:28 What your calendar says about you

08:08 The hardest commitment to keep

10:18 The hidden commitments in the way

18:10 The therapist question that changed everything

27:46 What commitment will cost you

32:25 Saying yes to the dress

34:46 Five questions for a commitment audit

YOUR TURN

Grab a journal and walk through the same five questions we asked ourselves:

What do I say I want?

What am I actually committed to?

What am I currently committed to that I no longer want?

What would I have to release in order to commit to what I truly want?

What is one commitment I’m willing to make to myself today? Be specific.

Then sit with this one: what are you really ready to stop committing to?

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If you’re at a transition point in life, looking for a new opportunity, or just need community in this chapter, we’d love to talk with you about whether this is the right fit.

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Dr. Christina Kintop is back, and oh my gosh, we haven’t stopped smiling. What if the season we’ve been told to quietly suffer through is actually the one where we finally step into our power?

Dr. Christina Kintop was one of our very first guests, and her episode is still the most listened to in Heart and Soul history. Women want to hear from her. That has become abundantly clear.

A few years ago Chrissy was in the messy middle. Kids were leaving home, she had lost her dad, and menopause knocked her off her feet even though she’s a primary care physician. She took a job interview with us in a parking lot at a bus stop, and somewhere between wedding setups and long chats, her creativity started coming back. 

Today she’s about to host her sixth Women’s Symposium, she has her own podcast, The Healing Pause, and she’s building something brand new. We got to sit with her and hear all of it.

WHAT WE WALKED AWAY WITH

6 million women in the US will go into menopause this year, and only 6% are seeking help.

Women weren’t required to be included in medical research until 1993.

Unmanaged menopause symptoms cost our economy $26.6 billion every year.

When women gather, it changes us down to the cell. Community is real medicine.

Sitting in the dark for a while isn’t failure. It’s often where we come back to ourselves.

OUR FAVORITE QUOTES

“Enough is not a quantity. It’s a decision.”

“Keep walking forward and the path will appear.”

“When menstruation stops, she becomes her power.”

“Resilience doesn’t always mean we have to be strong all the time.”

“Sometimes in those darkest moments is when you really find yourself.”

CHAPTERS

00:00 Welcoming Christy back

02:17 A job interview at a bus stop

19:32 She becomes her power

23:00 The study that scared a generation

33:37 The symposium and what’s coming next

43:17 What menopausal orcas know

46:23 Activated wings

🌿 STAY CONNECTED WITH DR. CHRISTINA KINTOP

If today’s conversation resonated with you, I’d love for you to stay connected and continue the journey with us.

Connect with me on Instagram: ✨ Follow along for daily reflections, education, and community conversations around perimenopause, menopause, and holistic women’s health.👉 Instagram: @kintopchiro https://www.instagram.com/kintopchiro/ 

Join Us In Person – The Women’s Symposium: A day created by women, for women—focused on health, healing, and empowerment through this season of life.👉 Learn more & upcoming dates: https://www.kintopchiropractic.com/ 

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It helps The Healing Pause reach more women who are searching for these conversations—and it truly means so much.

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What happens when the woman who used to listen to your podcast becomes the guest sitting across from you? That's the kind of full circle moment we got to sit in this week, and it reminded us all over again why we started this whole thing in the first place.

We are back in the hot seats after a couple months off, and there was truly nobody we wanted to welcome back with more than Liz Amys, host of the Whole Mom Podcast. We know Liz through the yoga community and through our mastermind, and watching her unfold over the years, from teacher training to divorce to building her own business, has been one of our favorite things to witness.

This conversation is part reunion, part masterclass in what it actually looks like to stop performing perfect and start showing up real.

KEY THEMES + TAKEAWAYS

Burnout was the wake up call. Liz shares how getting outside for an hour every morning during a season of overwhelm became the thing that reconnected her to her own thoughts, and eventually led her toward divorce, a career pivot, and yoga teacher training.

Perfectionism is the real boss fight. Liz is honest that she still struggles with it, and she gave us a phrase we are never letting go of: how human of me.

Progress over perfection is a practice, not a finish line. Liz talked about repairing with her kids after hard moments instead of pretending she never has them.

Your zone of genius can take years to fully click. From feng shui to fashion to hair, Liz let herself explore without needing it all to make sense right away.

Transformational styling is about more than clothes. Liz described it as an experience of being seen and reflected back to yourself, especially for moms who have disappeared into everyone else's needs.

Celebrating yourself does not require anyone's permission. We got into buying the purse, literally and figuratively, and how hard it can be to just say thank you when someone compliments you.

Investing in yourself, whether that is a mastermind, a divorce, or a new business, is worth it if it changes even one life, including your own.

OUR FAVORITE QUOTES

"How human of me."

"Progress over perfection."

"Who am I not to?"

"It is truly an experience of being seen, being heard."

"Buy the purse. You deserve it."

CHAPTER MARKERS

01:22 Welcome back to the hot seats

02:40 How we know Liz and why the stars aligned

05:52 From the nonprofit world to the Whole Mom Podcast

08:29 Burnout, divorce, and coming back home to herself

13:26 Perfectionism and how human of me

21:53 What transformational styling really means

32:19 Buy the purse, celebrating yourself

39:35 Where to find Liz and the Whole Mom Podcast

CONNECT WITH LIZ

Listen to the Whole Mom Podcast on Apple Podcasts and Spotify

Follow along on Instagram @wholemompodcast

Email Liz directly at [email protected]

Check out her projects and updates at onelovecollective.us

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It's just us this week, and we are talking about the thing we both love more than almost anything else. Travel. Where we've been, why it mattered, and the trip we are finally ready to tell you about.

We got on the topic because Mariah is coming out of a big season, kids graduating, a new chapter with her husband, and suddenly she's looking at the horizon and rebuilding the bucket list.

So we asked ourselves what we mutually love and do together more than anything, and the answer was obvious. So we sat down to swap our top travel picks, the ones that shaped us, and why. Stay with us because we have some news at the end.

KEY THEMES + TAKEAWAYS

You don't need to wait for retirement or a windfall to travel. It can happen on a budget, in a pop up camper, this year

The getting there is part of the trip. Long travel days with someone you love are never wasted time

The most transformational trips usually come with a little friction. Comfort isn't what you remember later

Travel changes how you see home, from how you use resources to how you treat the people around you

A trusted driver in a place with complex infrastructure can turn a car ride into the most educational part of the trip

AI tools can genuinely help you build a personal, meaningful itinerary instead of a generic one

It's rarely the destination alone that stays with you. It's the trip itself and who you shared it with

OUR FAVORITE QUOTES

"There are so many ways to experience a place. Don't let fear stop you from going."

"It's not the easy trips that change your life or that you remember forever."

"People come back to Cortona. It has a way of getting into their souls."

"It's not necessarily the destination alone. It's the trip itself."

CHAPTER MARKERS

00:00 Reevaluating the bucket list

04:43 Why travel doesn't have to wait

05:32 Turkey, walking through a living history book

09:51 Bali, the trip we almost didn't take

23:34 Italy, the village that gets into your soul

32:11 Iceland, driving across what feels like the moon

49:06 Announcing our first Heart and Soul group trip

YOUR TURN

This week's reflection. What's one place you've been putting off because of fear, money, or timing? What would it take for you to put it on the calendar this year?

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Have you ever loved something so much you forgot to ask what you were getting out of it? That was Andrea's story for years. Today she's here to talk about the flip side of that lesson, and why every business owner needs to think about the exit before they even think they're ready to.

We are so excited for this one because Andrea Black is someone we have known for years, way before she became a business advisor. Monique met her on the golf course back in the day, and our paths have crossed through mutual friends, family, and eventually through our mastermind group, where we watched Andrea move through a season of deep burnout and come out the other side completely transformed.

Andrea grew up in Duluth, spent years running a family insurance business with her brothers, cousin, and uncle, then hit a wall after a stint in a W2 job that left her completely depleted. That season of rest and reflection is what eventually led her to her current work as a business advisor with Transworld Business Advisors, where she helps people navigate one of the most emotional transactions of their lives: buying or selling a business.

KEY THEMES AND TAKEAWAYS

Every business should be built with the end in mind, even if the end is years away

Clean books and documented processes make a business dramatically easier to sell

Seller's discretionary earnings is the number buyers actually care about

Creative financing, including seller financing, can make deals work for everyone

Buying a business often means buying a lifestyle, not just a paycheck

Entrepreneurship can be lonely, which is exactly why community and mastermind groups matter

The first couple years of owning any business are hard, and that is normal

OUR FAVORITE QUOTES

"When you start a business, you should always look at it from the beginning of you're going to sell it at some point."

"Tiny babies can't eat love."

"You don't need or want to necessarily do it alone."

"It's a brave thing to put yourself out there."

"There's plenty of things you could buy that will light you up in a whole new way, especially when it's your choice to be making."

CHAPTER MARKERS

02:17 Meet Andrea Black

04:28 From family business to total burnout

08:08 The mastermind moment that changed her path

16:52 Why every business owner should think like a seller

27:00 The tiny babies can't eat love story

32:11 Life on the other side of burnout

YOUR TURN

If you sold everything you've built today, would you be ready? This week, take a look at one part of your business or your life that you have been avoiding, and ask yourself what it would take to get it in order, not because you're leaving, but because clarity is a gift you can give yourself now.

CONNECT WITH ANDREA

Website: www.tworldnorthstar.com

Email: [email protected]

Phone: 218-428-1728

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Monique brought us the most incredible guest today, and I could not wait to sit down with her. Marie Berwald is the founder of Birth Bliss, and she has spent over two decades supporting women through pregnancy and birth. What started as a yoga teacher covering a prenatal class turned into a calling she never planned on. Marie fell in love with the magic and intensity of pregnancy, and she never looked back.

Marie's story took a turn when her younger sister called her sobbing, eight weeks pregnant and struggling with nausea so severe she didn't want to be alive anymore. That moment sent Marie searching for tools beyond what she already had, and it led her to the Emotion Code and Body Code work that now shapes so much of what she offers women today.

KEY THEMES AND TAKEAWAYS

Morning sickness and other pregnancy symptoms often have emotional roots, not just physical ones

Muscle testing is a simple tool anyone can learn to check in with their own body

Our reactions to small stimuli are often tied to unprocessed emotions from the past

The body stores emotion, and releasing it can shift physical symptoms

There is no universal right answer for things like birth position, your body already knows what works for you

Medical care works best as a collaboration, not a one way relationship where the expert has all the answers

Rest during the day matters just as much as sleep at night

FAVORITE QUOTES

“I just kind of fell in love with pregnancy”

“Neither the patient nor the physician has all the answers”

“Your body will sway forward if it's a yes, because we move toward the things that are good for us”

“Give yourself permission to lay on the couch every day and listen to a guided meditation”

“Our state of being is the central point from which everything else flows”

CHAPTER MARKERS

05:03 How Marie accidentally fell in love with pregnancy

09:38 The call from her sister that changed everything

12:39 What the Emotion Code and Body Code actually are

20:43 A simple muscle testing trick anyone can try

24:30 Why your body already knows the best birth position

25:40 The doctor who taught her that no one has all the answers

33:07 The permission every pregnant woman needs to hear

YOUR TURN

Where in your life are you pushing through when your body is asking you to rest?

CONNECT WITH MARIE

Find Marie and all her free resources, including meditations, yoga sequences, and guidance on morning sickness and healing after miscarriage, on YouTube, where she shares the most.

https://www.birthbliss.ca/ 

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What do you do when your body starts shaking and your legs won't carry you into your own house? This week Monique and I sit down with Dr. Carolyn Colleen, and she takes us straight into the driveway of her old life, mid panic attack, moments before she had to walk in and start the conversation that would end her marriage.

Monique and I met Dr. Carolyn Colleen the way so many of the best friendships start now, in a Zoom room, feeling her energy through a screen and knowing we wanted more of it in our orbit. In person it was instant, the kind of connection where you just know the stars lined up on purpose.

Dr. Colleen's story starts with storms. Not metaphorical ones she read about, real ones she lived through from a young age. She walks us through the moment everything cracked open, sitting in her car in the driveway, hands locked on the wheel, heart racing, in the middle of her first ever panic attack, right before she had to go inside and begin the end of her marriage. From there she built what she calls the fierce method, a tool she now teaches women all over the world, and she takes us all the way to the stage of the United Nations to show us what's possible when you stop bracing for the storm and start learning to move through it.

KEY THEMES AND TAKEAWAYS

Storms in life don't stop coming, but we can get better at navigating them

A panic attack in the driveway became the turning point Dr. Colleen needed to rewrite her story

The fierce method breaks down to breathe, focus, fierce action, your BFF for the hard moments

Big change doesn't require a big leap, it just requires five minutes at a time

Emotions like anxiety and worry aren't the enemy, they can be harnessed as fuel

A 20 year goal to speak at the United Nations was reached in under three years once she let go of what wasn't hers to carry

Real growth is about who you're being, not just what you're doing

OUR FAVORITE QUOTES

"I didn't know what it was and I couldn't move."

"Is this storm going to break me, or is it going to elevate me?"

"Your new best friend is right inside of you."

"We're not necessarily getting rid of the old pathways, what we're doing is creating new ones."

"How are you choosing to be, not the human doing?"

CHAPTER MARKERS

07:57 The panic attack in the driveway

09:16 Choosing who to be before walking inside

13:08 Dreaming a 20 year goal out loud

14:32 Standing at the UN, three years ahead of schedule

17:55 Breathe, focus, fierce action, meet your BFF

22:09 Five minutes at a time

37:24 Human being over human doing

YOUR TURN

This week's reflection: where in your life are you bracing for a storm instead of learning to move through it? What would it look like to give yourself just five minutes to choose who you want to be next?

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What do you do when you move to a brand new city for someone else's dream job and there's no roadmap for you? Emily Langdon just wrote her own.

We had one of our favorite kinds of guests in the studio this week, someone from our own community who we've watched become part of the fabric of Duluth. Dr. Emily Langdon is married to Charles Langdon, the Chancellor of the University of Minnesota Duluth, and when they moved here for his role, there was no job description waiting for her. So she wrote her own.

Monique met Emily years ago at a holiday party and has been singing her praises ever since, and once we heard Emily speak at Leap about the leadership work she's building at UMD, we knew we had to get her on the mic. This episode is part origin story, part leadership masterclass, and part honest conversation about what it looks like to build a role, and a life, from scratch.

KEY THEMES + TAKEAWAYS

The winding road that took Emily from California to Ohio to Merced to Duluth, and what it taught her about partnership

What it's really like to be a spousal accommodation and how she turned that into her own lane instead of someone else's shadow

Why leadership can and should be taught, not just modeled or hoped for

The metaphor that changed how we think about learning: reading the book versus cutting open the frog

Why women especially need permission to fail forward instead of beating themselves up

How co-curricular life on college campuses (clubs, sports, sororities) quietly builds the leaders of tomorrow

The reminder that self-led people don't buy into the noise, they know what real leadership looks like

OUR FAVORITE QUOTES

"I whisper to my baby, I'm gonna get you out of here."

"If you want someone to make all the decisions, then you just get to sit back and judge and throw rocks."

"When you self lead, then you're not buying into the propaganda or the machine."

"You have to cut up a lot of problems to know what's going on in this animal."

"Stop beating yourself up and move forward with more information, with this knowledge you've gained."

CHAPTER MARKERS

02:13 Welcoming Emily to the show

05:15 How a Minnesotan husband led her to Duluth

09:23 Building a university from a golf course in Merced

14:32 Writing her own job description as a chancellor's partner

20:02 Why leadership became her whole thing

26:24 The women who quietly get everything done

38:23 Her go to leadership resource

YOUR TURN

Where in your life have you had to write your own job description because no one else could?

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What happens when the person you trust most tells you a truth that breaks you wide open? For Becky Moller, that moment became the doorway into a whole new life.

Becky joined us this week to talk about her journey from betrayal trauma into becoming a mindfulness teacher, author, and mentor. In 2014, her husband disclosed an online relationship connected to a pornography addiction he'd struggled with for years. Becky had always been the high functioning, juggle everything kind of person, and this was the moment she finally broke. What followed was a decade of healing that took her through twelve step recovery, meditation and yoga training, and eventually into building her own program, Undone Academy.

We talked about what it actually means to heal in the body, not just the mind, why relationships can be some of the most powerful growth machines we have, and how Becky came to understand that the pain she carried was never really about her husband at all. It was about learning to fully love and accept every part of herself.

OUR FAVORITE QUOTES

"I went from being a high functioning, juggle all the balls kind of person, to I just couldn't function anymore."

"What he did had exposed all of this pain that was already in me. The stuff I actually had to heal had very little to do with him at all."

"Your deepest self knows how to heal. It already knows. Our job is just to get out of the way."

"We are literally hardwired to belong to each other."

"The pain you feel is our human inheritance. Just focus on your next right step, because that's how you find your way through."

CHAPTER MARKERS

03:13 Becky's life now and how she got here

03:50 The disclosure that broke everything open

07:07 The pain was never really about him

13:16 Healing starts with creating space

17:09 The body as a portal into presence

23:56 Stepping into a frequency you didn't know existed

29:03 The book, the retreat, and the 60 day challenge

37:26 You are not alone

YOUR TURN

Where in your life are you trying to think your way through something that your body already knows how to heal? This week, notice what happens when you stop analyzing it and just ask yourself, can I be with this?

CONNECT WITH BECKY

Becky is opening up the 60 Day Mindful Summer Challenge starting June 1st. It's three daily commitments, nourish, move, and anchor, broken into eight modules of Body-Soul work you can do in small pieces each day. Register here: https://beckymoller.com/mindful-summer/

If you're in a relationship that needs repair or a deeper level of connection, Becky is also hosting a Couples Retreat September 3rd through 6th in St George, Utah, built around the tools of embodied mindfulness. Register here: https://beckymoller.com/couples-retreat/

Becky's book, Undone, Unafraid, walks through her own journey from rock bottom into wholeness. Find it here: https://www.amazon.com/Undone-Unafraid-Evolving-Betrayal-Femininity-ebook/dp/B0FZYSSNZM

If Becky's story resonates with you, reach out. Email her directly at [email protected] or visit her at beckymoller.com. She also posts weekly teachings and mindfulness practices every Monday on her YouTube channel, The Undone Path with Becky Moller: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8wzQA5FDVaTYUPox_NACSA

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