In this episode of Heart Matters with Father Norm and Gino, we reflect on recent cultural controversies—from the Super Bowl halftime conversation to the disturbing portrayal of the Obamas as monkeys—and the deeper fatigue many feel around racism and public discourse.

This conversation is less about headlines and more about how we form our hearts in moments like these.

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In this introductory episode of Heart Matters with Father Norm and Gino, we share how our friendship began and why this podcast exists. We introduce the heart behind the show, the kinds of conversations we’ll be having, and the stories and questions that shape who we are becoming. This is an invitation into honest, reflective dialogue about faith, life, and what truly matters.

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