Ellen Kamhi talks with Heather Mathes, who began modeling in 1988, retired in 2008, and came out of retirement in 2016 at the age of 46 to continue fit modeling for the same company at the exact measurements she was in her twenties, not because she was under contract, but because she had developed health and wellness methods that kept her weight from fluctuating. She is the author of PAID TO BE PERFECT.