Karls Monzon immigrated to Miami from Cuba in search of his American dream to own a home, a nice car, and start a family. But when his wife struggled to have children, he hatched a plan to pay for an expensive adoption by stealing millions in cash delivered by plane to Miami International Airport. And he did all the research he needed to pull off the heist by watching American TV.

Up for discussion today is “The Money Plane”—part two of our special coverage of all three stories featured in the docuseries “Heist.”

Rebecca Lavoie will talk with Oscar-winner Martin Desmond Roe, who directed “The Money Plane.” This episode contains spoilers so make sure to watch both episodes of “The Money Plane” before listening on.