On Theme: Design Systems in Depth

Help, I'm starting a new design system job! with Amy Ogg — #11


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This one’s a little bit different than some of the projects and topics that we've had on the podcast so far — we’re talking about starting a new role. I think it's one of the hardest things that we do sometimes as design system practitioners, because the design system is really about changing your organization, changing the way we build UI, and so there's a lot of weight on your shoulders when you come into a new role.

Starting a new job as a design system practitioner can feel exciting and terrifying all at once—but Amy Ogg has some insights to help us navigate the emotional rollercoaster. Amy and Elyse chat about how to spend your first 30-60-90 days, building genuine trust, and why making big changes as a new hire can actually backfire. They commiserate over balancing the overwhelming backlog as a small team, and Amy shares why she thinks cross-training outside your expertise is a must. Plus, Amy shares how her experience as a barista shaped her approach to UX design ☕️


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Links & References

  • Amy Ogg on LinkedIn
  • Desire paths in UX
  • Amy’s article on how starting out with research and understanding users can help shape effective design systems on the Design Systems for Figma blog
  • Your first 90 days in a UX design role by Christopher Nguyen
  • The First 90 Days (original book) by Michael D Watkins
  • Into Design Systems Meetups - Seattle, USA chapter
  • Will Larson's book Staff Eng


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On Theme: Design Systems in DepthBy Elyse Holladay