High Five Hot Mess Podcast

How much woo is too woo? Crystals in your bra, moon water, past-life regression, and spiritual wellness trends that make you wonder: Have we officially lost our minds?

Lisa Wilson and Lisa Smith are asking where curiosity ends and complete nonsense begins. From Mercury retrograde ruining dinner to questionable cleanses, psychic readings, sound baths, and the promise of healing your money problems by peeing on your credit card, we're exploring just how far down the woo rabbit hole we're willing to go.

One Lisa is getting increasingly woo-curious. The other has questions. LOTS of questions.

But underneath the ridiculousness is something surprisingly real: When does trying something new become believing something that might actually hurt us?

We're not here to judge your crystals. We're just wondering how many you can fit in your bra.

YOUR TURN: What's the woo-iest thing you've ever tried—and would you do it again?

Tell us on Instagram @highfivehotmess or in the YouTube comments.

CHAPTERS

00:00 How Much Woo Is Too Woo?
04:17 Too Woo or I'm In?
12:31 When Wellness Becomes Woo
23:53 Past Lives and Ridiculous Woo
30:54 Sound Baths and Witchy Expectations
39:27 Where Do We Draw the Line?

MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE

Curious about some of the things we discussed? Here are the official websites:

Whole30 — The 30-day food elimination program Lisa Wilson tried.
https://whole30.com/

Reiki — Learn about the Japanese energy-based practice Lisa Smith discusses.
https://www.reiki.org/what-reiki

Kate's Magik — Botanical aromatherapy, anointing oils, and aura sprays.
https://www.katesmagik.com/

Aveda Chakra Balancing Sprays — The chakra-inspired aromatic body mists.
https://www.aveda.com/body/chakra-balance-spray

ABOUT THE SHOW

We're Lisa and Lisa, two friends having funny, occasionally inappropriate, and unexpectedly honest conversations about the things that make life interesting. If you've been looking for a podcast that feels like hanging out with your girlfriends, welcome. You're not alone.

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I thought tarot card readings were a total scam. Then my tarot reading started coming true, month by month, and now my group chat is on fire. So can someone actually predict your future?

Lisa Wilson went from skeptic to believer after a 12-month tarot reading called a surprise money call in May, a wave of influential people in July, and a hard August she never saw coming. Lisa Smith, a longtime tarot fan, shares the reading that predicted a workplace plot six months out. Plus: would you want to know the day you'll die, the 7-Eleven psychic Lisa W knocked over with a car door, and our tarot predictions for November. A funny podcast for women over 40 who like their woo with a side of skepticism.

HIGH FIVE: PARIZ SALON

Huge thanks to Hope and the team at Pariz Salon in Lake Las Vegas (Henderson, NV). They gave Lisa W a blowout that lasted three days, then the whole salon followed us on Instagram to push us past 200. Women helping women. Go see them.

Website: https://parizsalon.com

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YOUR TURN: Have you ever been so desperate for an answer that you started looking for signs? A tarot reading, a horoscope, your mom, the universe?

Tell us on Instagram @highfivehotmess or in the YouTube comments.

CHAPTERS

00:00 Can Someone Predict Your Future?

08:12 A Tarot Skeptic Gets a Reading

12:00 The Tarot Predictions That Came True

20:59 The 7-Eleven Psychic

24:17 Our November Tarot Predictions

28:32 Our High Fives

We're Lisa and Lisa, two friends having funny, occasionally inappropriate, and unexpectedly honest conversations about the things that make life interesting. If you've been looking for a podcast that feels like hanging out with your girlfriends, welcome. You're not alone.

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You know that friend whose name pops up on your phone and you already feel tired?

She calls. She unloads. She feels so much better. And somehow, you need a nap, a snack, and possibly an exorcist.

So… are energy vampires actually real, or are some people just exhausting?

This week, Lisa Wilson and Lisa Smith are joined by energy healer Jenifer Freer to talk about the people who seem to drain the life out of us—and how to tell the difference between an energy vampire, someone having a hard time, and the uncomfortable possibility that sometimes we might be the problem.

We get into draining friendships, negative coworkers, grief thieves, joy thieves, emotional boundaries, energy attachments, auras, and ways to protect your energy when you can't simply cut someone out of your life.

Jenifer also gives both Lisas a live energy reading, Lisa Wilson reveals why she keeps salt in her car, Lisa Smith discovers that Prince may be her spirit guide, and we ask the question nobody really wants to ask:

What if I’ve been the energy vampire?

If you've ever hung up the phone with someone and wondered why you're suddenly exhausted, this one's for you.

CHAPTERS

00:00 Are Energy Vampires Real?
02:40 Energy Vampire or Just Exhausting?
05:00 Meet an Energy Healer: How Does Energy Really Work?
07:53 What Is an Energy Vampire?
10:25 How Do You Know When Someone Is Draining Your Energy?
13:22 Grief, Negativity & the People Who Steal Your Joy
17:15 Can You Actually Read Someone’s Energy?
21:29 What Does Your Aura Say About You?
23:43 Energy Attachments: Can You Carry Someone Else’s Energy?
25:56 How to Protect Your Energy Without Cutting Everyone Off
30:23 Plot Twist: What If YOU’RE the Energy Vampire?
34:15 Finding Your High-Vibe People

YOUR TURN: Who drains your battery, and have you ever realized you were the one doing the draining?

We're Lisa and Lisa, two longtime friends having funny, occasionally inappropriate, and unexpectedly honest conversations about the things women are already talking about in the group chat.

You are not alone. Come sit with us.

Have you ever had a gut feeling that something terrible was about to happen—and then it did? Or seen something so strange that you're still trying to explain it years later?

This week on High Five Hot Mess, Lisa Wilson and Lisa Smith are talking about women's intuition, premonitions, unexplained experiences and all the things we believe even when we can't prove them.

We're getting into bad-news premonitions, mysterious visions, doppelgangers, guardian ancestors, synchronicities, energy healing and the possibility that one of us might actually be a witch. Yes, Etsy is involved.

From a gargoyle appearing beside the bed to a fiery chariot crossing the sky, these are the stories that make you call your best friend and ask, "Am I losing my mind, or has something like this happened to you?"

Whether you trust your gut, believe in the supernatural or need proof before you'll believe anything, come hang out with us. We're not experts. We're two friends with some very strange stories and a lot of questions.

YOUR TURN: Have you ever had a premonition, experienced something you couldn't explain or trusted your intuition when everyone else thought you were crazy? Tell us your story!

00:00 Can You Feel Bad News Before It Happens?
01:39 Do You Believe What You Can't Explain?
01:57 Have You Ever Experienced Something Unexplainable?
04:38 Do You Trust Your Gut or Need Proof?
07:19 Women's Intuition: Can You Feel Bad Energy?
09:46 Premonitions: Have You Seen Something You Can't Explain?
12:38 Visions and Prophecies: What Does It All Mean?
16:43 UFOs: What If We're Not Alone?
18:31 Parallel Timelines: Did You Slip Into Another Dimension?
19:14 Doppelgangers: What If You Saw Your Double?
23:15 Are You an Empath or Just Really Intuitive?
24:09 Energy Healing, Witchcraft and the Power of Intention
25:44 Feng Shui: Can You Change the Energy in Your Home?
28:50 Is Karma Real? Does It Ever Catch Up?
30:16 Wait... Am I a Witch Now?
30:34 Can Your Ancestors Protect You?
35:02 Fate or Free Will: Is Your Life Already Planned?
36:34 Synchronicity: Coincidence or a Sign From the Universe?

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Women's intuition, gut feelings, premonitions, unexplained experiences, paranormal stories, synchronicity, sixth sense, doppelgangers, guardian ancestors, witchcraft, spiritual experiences, funny women's podcast, Gen X women, midlife women, women over 40, female friendship

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You finally moved into your fresh-start house after your divorce. Then your five-year-old looks at the foot of the bed and says, "Mom, there are three men standing there."

Lisa S had to move out of her first house fast because something in it did not want her there. The blessing she asked for ended with "maybe you should get therapy." Lisa W is a ghost hunter who carries salt in her car and was raised to believe she's the boss of the ghosts. Together they tackle the question they completely disagree on: your house is haunted. What are you going to do about it?

Real haunted house stories, signs a house is haunted, whether burning sage actually works, what to do if someone pulls out a Ouija board, and why your stress might make a haunting worse. Whether you're a believer, a skeptic, or you just sleep with the lights on, you're not alone.

00:00 What Would You Do If Your House Was Haunted?
00:32 My Dad Taught Me I'm the Boss of the Ghosts
04:10 Someone Pulls Out a Ouija Board. Do You Stay?
04:35 Signs a House Is Haunted (and Why Antique Stores Make Me Dizzy)
07:51 A Neighbor Died. Then I Saw Her in Her Kitchen Window
11:47 My First House After My Divorce Was Haunted
14:41 "Mom, There's Three Men at the Foot of the Bed"
16:36 I Asked for a House Blessing. They Told Me to Get Therapy
18:09 What My 5-Year-Old Caught on His iPad
18:53 "How Are You Living Here?" We Moved Out in One Day
21:02 Why Divorce and Stress Can Make a Haunting Worse
23:17 Does Burning Sage Actually Get Rid of Ghosts?
23:56 My Haunted Office Building
24:31 Why I Made My Husband Promise to Dock the Boat
25:51 Is It Rats or Is It Ghosts?
28:54 The Security Guard's Fourth-Floor Ghost Story
32:06 What Is a Ghost, Really?
35:11 If a Ghost Hunter Starts With "Demon," Fire Them
35:50 Our High Fives
38:16 How to Get Rid of a Ghost: Our Honest Answers
40:39 Why I Carry Salt in My Car

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Two Lisas. One group chat with microphones. Come sit with us. 🖐️

The world is on fire, but dinner is still at six.

This week, we’re asking the question that keeps coming up every time we open our phones: What can we actually do about any of this?

From terrifying headlines and AI anxiety to comfort murder, apocalypse prepping, K-pop and some highly questionable self-soothing techniques, we’re figuring out where the line is between paying attention and completely losing our minds.

No grand solutions. No pretending everything is fine. Just two women trying to figure out how the hell we’re supposed to live our normal lives when nothing feels particularly normal.

You are not alone. ❤️

00:00 The Year of the Villain
01:41 Okay, What Are We Supposed to Do?
05:19 Let’s Look at the Headlines
09:35 Do I Still Buy the Toothpaste?
13:35 The World Is on Fire, Dinner Is Still at Six
17:42 What If You Just Stop Watching the News?
20:27 Why Are We Comfort-Watching Murder?
22:18 Wait… Are We All Preppers Now?
26:32 Emergency Salt for Demons
29:58 So What CAN We Actually Control?
31:43 Parenting in the Age of “Is This Even Real?”
35:48 Remember When Nostradamus Traumatized Us?
37:38 The Robots Are Protesting. Seriously.
38:25 Okay, But How Are We Self-Soothing?
40:15 When the Spa Isn’t Cutting It Anymore
42:10 K-Pop vs. Something Much, Much Darker 😂
43:30 So… What Can We Actually Do About It?

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Tags: midlife women, women over 40, women over 50, Gen X women, feeling overwhelmed, doomscrolling, news anxiety, self soothing, finding control, mental load, female friendship, midlife humor, women’s podcast, funny women, information overload, protecting your peace, coping with stress

Are We Really Sorry? | Why Women Can't Stop Apologizing

If you've ever apologized for taking up space, asking a simple question, or just existing in someone's way — this one's for you.

This week Lisa W and Lisa S go head-to-head on two completely different relationships with the word "sorry." One of them almost never apologizes. The other says it so often it's basically background noise — she tried counting her own reflex apologies over one afternoon and lost track. By the end, they're asking the real question underneath it all: are we actually sorry, or do we just feel like we're supposed to be?

If you're a chronic over-apologizer, a recovering people pleaser, or you're ready to make "sorry, not sorry" your new personal policy — you're going to see yourself in this one.

In this episode:

• Why "sorry" has become a reflex instead of a real apology
• The hidden cost of over-apologizing — it's not politeness, it's power
• A homework challenge: track your own "sorry"s for a day and see what you find
• Two opposite apology styles — which one is yours?

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Are We Too Old to Fangirl? | BTS, Fandom & Finding Joy After 50

When did women supposedly get too old to completely lose their minds over something they love?

Men can scream at football games, spend a fortune on tickets and build weekends around their fandom. But when grown women fangirl over BTS, K-pop, a TV show or celebrity crush, we're supposed to be embarrassed?

Absolutely not.

This week on High Five Hot Mess, Lisa Smith takes us inside her BTS ARMY era — concerts, 70,000 screaming fans, light sticks, fan gifts, biases, bias wreckers and the question of how much is too much for a few hours of pure joy.

Meanwhile, Lisa Wilson has fallen down her own rabbit hole thanks to K-dramas, C-dramas and the Instagram girlies who convinced her 40 subtitled episodes were reasonable.

Why does fandom feel different at 21 than 51? Why are women embarrassed by things that make us happy? And when does "I want to marry him" become "Has he eaten? He looks tired." 😂

Welcome to the Auntie Zone.

We're talking BTS ARMY, fangirling after 50, female friendship, K-pop, K-dramas and midlife joy.

Maybe we didn't age out of fangirling. Maybe we earned it.

💜 IN THIS EPISODE

00:00 Can You Be Too Old for BTS?

02:50 Why Are Women Embarrassed to Be Fangirls?

06:12 Fangirling at 21 vs. Fangirling at 51

10:04 From “Marry Me” to “I Hope He Ate Today”

13:05 Why BTS ARMY Feels Like a Community

17:01 How Much Would You Spend on a Concert?

18:46 BTS Bias, Bias Wreckers & Fan Gifts Explained

24:30 What 70,000 BTS Fans Feel Like

27:54 This Girl LOVES a K-Drama!

31:26 When a Celebrity Crush Becomes Auntie Mode

33:18 Why We Love the Things We Love

36:12 Is There an Age Limit to BTS ARMY?

💜 BTS & ARMY

Weverse:

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BTS Notices:

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https://www.usbtsarmy.com/

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BTS ARMY: Who's your bias and bias wrecker? 💜

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High Five Hot Mess is a comedy comfort podcast for women navigating midlife, friendship, aging and pop culture.

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We’ve both been in things that felt a little cult-y. You probably have too. You just called it your job, your book club or your weekly mahjong game.

This week, we’re breaking down why smart, high functioning, skeptical women can still get pulled into cult like situations. From a retail kickoff that had us singing Eye of the Tiger on chairs in boxing robes to the extremely real cult like energy of Twilight opening weekend.

Then we turn the question on ourselves: could two smart, skeptical, high functioning women actually get pulled into a cult? And what would it take? A charismatic leader? The promise of a better life? Or maybe something much simpler: a group of women who make you feel like you finally found your people.

Somewhere between Tony Robbins, Twilight, wellness gurus, better hair and our own questionable life choices, the question gets a lot more complicated than we expected.

• 00:00 — Should We Join a Cult?
• 01:27 — Why Are Cults So Fascinating?
• 03:01 — Why Are Women Drawn to Cults?
• 04:32 — Was Our Retail Career Basically a Cult?
• 06:30 — Rocky, Eye of the Tiger & Corporate Brainwashing
• 08:17 — Tony Robbins & "I Can Make Your Hands Clap"
• 09:46 — Could Smart Women Actually Join a Cult?
• 10:14 — What Would It Take to Recruit Us?
• 13:17 — A Charismatic Leader—or Women Who Make You Feel Seen?
• 15:00 — Female Friendship, Trust & Finding Your People
• 17:08 — Maybe Cults Don't Sell Belief. They Sell Belonging.
• 17:42 — When Fandom Starts Looking a Little Culty
• 21:38 — The Twilight Experience: A Cult of Fandom
• 22:41 — Prince, BTS & When Fandom Feels Like Belonging
• 23:54 — Super Culty, but Super Fun
• 25:39 — Wellness Culture, Gurus & the Midlife Rabbit Hole
• 28:35 — Would You Join a Cult for Better Hair?
• 31:02 — Are We Too Suspicious to Join a Cult?
• 31:42 — Fine. We'll Just Start Our Own Cult.
• 36:40 — Tony Robbins, Celebrity Retreats & the Ultimate Scam
• 39:36 — The Cult Red Flags We'd Actually Pay Attention To

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This week, Lisa and Lisa are asking why midlife women are so ready to fight, flee, or freeze over the smallest things. Have years of chronic stress, Gen X trauma, menopause, and being the responsible one left us permanently stuck in fight mode? Or have we simply had enough? Honestly, it could be all of the above.

Along the way, Lisa S becomes the angry Amazon customer she used to hate, Lisa W explains exactly what happens when somebody hurts Doug's feelings, someone makes the mistake of telling us to smile, Lisa runs away from Trent Reznor, and we revisit the time the two of us sat in an airplane exit row studying the evacuation instructions like the fate of America depended on us.

And then there's the storage container.

Because sometimes you're furious about the Amazon package, the Teams message, the Tupperware, or the couch.

And sometimes it was never about the couch.

If you've ever caught yourself thinking, “Why am I so angry?” or “Why did that tiny thing set me off?” — pull up a chair. You're among friends.

High Five Hot Mess is the comedy comfort podcast for midlife women — the questions stuck in your group chat, said out loud.

00:00:00 — Everything Feels Urgent
00:09:39 — Fight, Flight or Freeze
00:18:31 — Living on High Alert
00:28:29 — Menopause and Anger
00:33:35 — What Actually Helps
00:40:58 — Friendship and Boundaries

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