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In episode 72 of Hims House, Jonathan Stern interviews David Wells, Hims board member and former Netflix CFO, about his recent $1.2 million open-market purchase of Hims shares. Wells explains why he believes the company is at an inflection point after the Novo dispute and why the market may be missing the larger healthcare platform story. He discusses Hims’ mission, the broken cost and access structure of U.S. healthcare, and why he focuses more on longer-term cohorts and customer value than quarter-to-quarter CAC. The conversation covers the GLP-1 transition, peptides, acquisition pace, Andrew Dudum’s leadership, remote culture, AI, wearables, and what Hims can learn from Netflix’s disruption playbook. Wells also breaks down 10b5-1 insider selling plans, the promise of preventative scans, and why poor execution is the bear case that matters most.
00:00 - Sponsor: Superpower
01:07 - Meet David Wells
02:30 - Why he bought $1.2M in shares
05:58 - Building a mission-driven company
09:03 - Why he accepted the offer to join the board
10:45 - Financial metrics David is tracking
12:53 - Novo deal + GLP-1s
15:13 - Peptides: best, not first
19:45 - M&A and execution risk
20:40 - What CEO Andrew Dudum does well
22:30 - Remote impact on company culture
24:22 - AI, tech, and wearables
29:55 - Lessons from Netflix
36:17 - Insider sales 10b5-1 explained
45:37 - Short interest and the bear case
48:23 - Hims in 2030
Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only. Nothing discussed should be considered financial, investment, or legal advice. Always consult with a qualified professional before making financial decisions.
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In Hims House episode 71, Jonathan Stern sits down with hedge fund manager Ignacio Canto -- founder & portfolio manager at X-Square Capital, which held over 420k Hims shares as of Q1. Canto traces his interest back years, through personal product discovery and his late father's perspective as a urologist, and frames Hims as a platform business attacking a broken, expensive, and slow healthcare system. He explains why he never considered selling through the Novo Nordisk lawsuit, then lays out the moats he cares about: network effects, data ownership, proprietary wearables, and a retail following that grants rare access to cheap equity capital. He compares Hims to a mix of Costco + Netflix, makes a Tesla-style case for why the retail cult is itself part of the thesis, and argues geographic expansion widens the TAM and helps surface winning verticals. He flags regulation and competition as the main risks, but sees logarithmic upside that makes any linear price target a trap -- and thinks the stock could eventually command a 10x price-to-sales.
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01:38 - Why he never considered selling
03:41 - Buying the collapse into the teens
06:29 - Why Hims first caught his eye
10:37 - Healthcare is broken and overpriced
12:50 - Why Ignacio has added to his position since 2024
21:41 - Why price targets aren't right for Hims
27:42 - Retail cults
38:40 - Hims as Costco + Netflix
41:33 - Why Hims should own the wearable
44:25 - Regulation as a bear case
46:09 - Competition: Ro, Amazon, and others
55:30 - Why Hims could command a 10x P/S ratio
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In Hims House episode 70, Jonathan Stern sits down with hedge fund manager Imran Khan, founder and CIO of Proem Asset Management and a Hims shareholder (110,000 shares as of March 31). Khan lays out his investment framework -- long-term growth potential, execution track record -- and argues that Hims' core asset is its loyal customer base and its ability to stack new products and services on top of it, with execution as the main bear case. Drawing on his years at Snap as Chief Strategy Officer, he explains why markets overreact in both directions and why investors should follow the numbers rather than the narrative. They dig into the risks of hiring big-company executives, the limited visibility into product progress, and gross margins hitting an all-time low (which Khan sees as non-structural for Hims). The discussion widens to SpaceX's IPO, software vs semis in the AI capex cycle, Duolingo as a "learning social network," buybacks and insider buying, and the dangers of excessive leverage and round-the-clock markets.
00:00 - Sponsor: Superpower
02:07 - Conviction to double down on Hims
04:32 - How being an operator reshaped his investing
06:51 - Inside the Proem portfolio
09:38 - The bull case for Hims
14:15 - Why founder focus matters
15:45 - Execution is the whole bear case
17:45 - The LTV and CAC flywheel
21:56 - The risk of hiring big-company execs
27:03 - Is the pace of product development too slow?
29:51 - Let the numbers speak
31:10 - Gross margins heading the wrong way?
32:59 - What SpaceX's IPO does to markets
35:33 - Software versus semis in the AI cycle
38:51 - Duolingo as a learning social network
42:45 - Buybacks and why insider buys don't excite him
44:28 - Why memory names may go higher
45:23 - The value of sell-side research
48:31 - Why he loves being an investor (and spectating)
50:55 - Managing risk and avoiding leverage
52:26 - Leverage, 24/7 markets, and closing advice
Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only. Nothing discussed should be considered financial, investment, or legal advice. Always consult with a qualified professional before making financial decisions.
In episode 69 of Hims House, Jonathan Stern welcomes back researcher and data analyst Cremieux to take stock of the GLP-1 and peptides market. Cremieux points to Epic's new EHR dashboard as the best live read on adoption, backing estimates that roughly one in eight adults are on GLP-1s and one in five have tried them -- with cost and stigma holding back uptake until semaglutide generics arrive around 2031. They also dig into the next wave of GLP-1s, spotlighting glucagon combos like servadutide and mazdutide for dramatic liver-fat reductions, plus retatrutide's standout weight-loss numbers. Cremieux pushes back on the claim that retatrutide preserves muscle and throws cold water on peptide hype, especially BPC-157, while flagging thymosin alpha-1 as the one with the most real clinical support. They close on why wearables rarely change behavior, and whether Ro will ever go public.
00:00 - Sponsor: Superpower
01:37 - What America looks like in 2030
03:58 - How many Americans are on GLP-1s today?
05:46 - Why price still keeps people off GLP-1s
06:32 - Generic GLP-1s in 2031
09:30 - The next-generation of GLP-1s
11:02 - GLP-1 effect on fatty liver disease
15:48 - Could the FDA fast-track retatrutide?
17:15 - The oral GLP-1 war: Wegovy Pill vs Foundayo
21:04 - Is it a myth that reta preserves muscle?
25:05 - ADA conference takeaways
27:23 - Why GLP-1s are likely safe over the long term
31:55 - BPC-157's thin evidence + cancer risk
35:12 - Which peptides actually have the most evidence
38:20 - Peptides market dynamics
41:29 - Why wearables usually don't change behavior
46:10 - Will Ro go public?
Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only. Nothing discussed should be considered financial, investment, or legal advice. Always consult with a qualified professional before making financial decisions.
In episode 68, Jonathan Stern hosts Sagar and Sahil Chopra, founders of Empower Sleep, to unpack why sleep care is still fragmented, slow, and overly dependent on single-night testing. They explain how Empower uses multi-night diagnostics, wearable integrations, coaches, and clinicians to build a fuller picture of what is actually driving poor sleep. They also discuss how weight loss, GLP-1s, alcohol, congestion, and physiology changes can alter sleep therapy over time. Finally, they explore how Hims could enter sleep through diagnostics, targeted treatments, cash-pay CPAP, and AI-enabled longitudinal care.
00:59 - Background on Empower Sleep
07:41 - Why sleep care is broken
11:12 - The single-night testing flaw
15:02 - Medical-grade sensors vs wearables
20:08 - Empower’s patient journey
28:29 - The sleep market opportunity
36:29 - How Hims could enter sleep
46:02 - Future of sleep tech
Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only. Nothing discussed should be considered financial, investment, or legal advice. Always consult with a qualified professional before making financial decisions.
In episode 67 of Hims House, Jonathan Stern hosts Eli Dorf, founder and president of Bask Health. Bask provides the operating infrastructure for telehealth brands to launch quickly, choose pharmacy and clinical partners, route patients, process payments, and fulfill medications. Eli explains why outsourced infrastructure can let small teams scale fast, what Medvi’s rise reveals about the telehealth stack, and why he sees Hims’ strongest moat as brand trust and customer scale rather than pure technology. They also discuss pricing pressure in compounded GLP-1s, FDA enforcement, 503A compounding latitude, and why fragmentation could keep compressing margins. The conversation closes with peptides, LegitScript and payments hurdles, trusted brands, wearables, the health super app race, and whether Ro could go public.
00:00 - Sponsor: Superpower
02:18 - What Bask Health does
03:19 - Launching a telehealth brand overnight
07:21 - Can anyone copy Hims?
14:28 - Bask's business model
16:28 - Fragmentation hits telehealth margins
19:48 - Medvi’s cautionary tale
21:56 - What are Hims’ real moats
25:29 - Data, AI, and wearables
26:39 - Should Hims sell hardware?
30:15 - FDA pressure on GLP-1s
33:44 - Peptides as the next GLP-1 moment
36:48 - Payment processing and LegitScript
41:05 - Why peptide trust matters
43:52 - The health super-app race
47:44 - Ro vs Hims
50:45 - Will Ro go public?
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In episode 66 of Hims House, Jonathan Stern hosts Brian Birnbaum, “The Psycho Analyst,” for a post-earnings breakdown of Hims & Hers’ Q1. They unpack the transition to branded GLP-1s, the $608M in revenue (and y/y U.S. revenue decline), lower gross margins, subscriber net new adds, and why guidance matters more than the headline numbers. Brian argues Hims is still a venture-style bet, as they discuss all of the factors that will shape the next phase. They also discuss Ro’s momentum, peptides, Hims as an AI doctor / healthcare "operating system", wearables, insider selling, and valuation. The episode closes with Brian’s broader market outlook and why he remains bullish despite volatility, short pressure, and execution risk.
00:56 - Meet Brian Birnbaum
01:51 - Why “The Psycho Analyst”
03:03 - Market psychology and Hims
04:38 - Q1 numbers that actually matter
07:07 - Bullish revenue guidance
07:56 - Gross margins
10:17 - Testosterone and Wegovy scale
13:26 - Branded GLPs
14:30 - Subscribers, churn, and Q2 guidance
19:02 - Novo lawsuit aftermath
21:41 - Volatility and conviction
23:53 - Why Brian trusts Andrew
25:25 - International risk and Ro pressure
28:22 - Ro’s domestic momentum
31:08 - Is Ro preparing to IPO?
32:14 - Peptides
34:39 - Why best beats first
36:34 - Speed
40:40 - The AI doctor thesis
41:19 - Wearables
46:59 - Insider selling
50:30 - Valuing a venture-stage public company
52:35 - Broader market outlook
58:33 - Final takeaways
Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only. Nothing discussed should be considered financial, investment, or legal advice. Always consult with a qualified professional before making financial decisions.
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In episode 65 of Hims House, Jonathan Stern talks with Mansi Hukmani, founder of Chief Longevity Officer, about how peptide culture moved from biohacker circles into the next big frontier for telehealth. Mansi explains how New York, San Francisco, London, and Dubai each approach longevity culture differently, and why distrust in traditional healthcare has helped peptides feel more like a movement than a product category. They discuss her own experience with retatrutide, the coming FDA regulatory milestones, and why reclassification could unleash a wave of clinics, compounders, and telehealth players. The conversation then turns to the real bottleneck: supply chain control, especially China’s dominance in protected amino acids and peptide synthesis. Mansi argues the winners may not be first to market, but first to secure manufacturing, data, and trust at scale.
02:09 - The #1 peptide substacker
03:45 - Inside peptide culture
06:30 - NAD+ shots and different form factors
08:20 - Peptide culture across cities
10:54 - Dubai’s longevity gold rush
12:21 - Why peptides feel a little like crypto
16:41 - Mansi’s peptide experiments
19:50 - FDA timeline for peptide reclassification
24:46 - Why supply chain wins
26:11 - The synthesis bottleneck
28:15 - China’s scale advantage
30:29 - Why Hims bought CS Bio
31:39 - State laws
33:57 - Who wins the peptide rush
36:51 - Pricing power, tariffs, and trust
41:53 - Why gray markets persist
45:01 - Peptides with real LTV
47:51 - The Flatiron Health for peptides
Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only. Nothing discussed should be considered financial, investment, or legal advice. Always consult with a qualified professional before making financial decisions.
In Hims House episode 64, Jonathan Stern hosts Max Martin & Christian Angermayer, co-founders of Enhanced, ahead of their inaugural May 24 Las Vegas games featuring track, swimming, weightlifting, and a deadlift showdown between Thor Björnsson and Mitchell Hooper. They argue that banning PEDs drives unsafe, hidden use and that openly allowing FDA-approved substances under medical supervision, paired with an IRB-approved clinical study of about 40 athletes at a top Abu Dhabi longevity hospital, is both safer and more honest. Enhanced is also building a consumer health and longevity brand selling supplements (Longer+ and Stronger+), hormone therapy, compounded GLP-1s, and approved peptides, with plans to launch more peptides immediately once the FDA reclassifies them in July. Angermayer also discusses his family office Apeiron, his psychedelics company atai Life Sciences, and the recent White House endorsement of psychedelic therapeutics. The company is going public via SPAC in early-to-mid May at a $1.2B valuation under the ticker ENHA, with founders arguing now is the right time to bring fans along as shareholders.
02:40 - The case for allowing PEDs in sports
06:19 - Prize money and equal pay
10:40 - Humans vs robots? 🤯
15:32 - Inside the Abu Dhabi clinical trial
20:07 - Why Abu Dhabi
24:04 - Launching the consumer health line
29:40 - Peptides ready to go
32:32 - Sizing the peptide market
35:42 - The shift to preventative medicine
39:56 - Double digit peptide adoption forecast
43:21 - Apeiron and the next human agenda
47:53 - Psychedelics x White House boost
51:50 - Going public to include fans
55:24 - Telehealth megacycle just starting
58:15 - Sports as customer acquisition engine
01:08:17 - Enhanced’s Longer+ formulation
01:10:57 - Biohacking roots and wrap up
Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only. Nothing discussed should be considered financial, investment, or legal advice. Always consult with a qualified professional before making financial decisions.
In this episode of Hims House, Jonathan Stern welcomes back six-time #1 ranked healthcare analyst David Maris to unpack everything that's happened at Hims since last July. They walk through the wild GLP-1 timeline -- the compounded semaglutide pill launch, Novo's lawsuit, FDA/DOJ referral, and surprise Novo partnership -- debating margins, the missing Lilly deal, and what the MEDVi scandal means for the broader compounding market. Maris shares mixed feelings on peptides ahead of the July FDA meeting, and makes the case that TRT and especially sleep are billion-dollar opportunities analysts are ignoring. He also critiques Hims' voting structure and insider selling, weighs in on the stubborn 34% short interest, and closes by revealing he's long Hims as of April 17, 2026, despite worries about what Q1 data is signaling.
02:56 - Compounded semaglutide pill saga
05:49 - The "steelman" for why Hims launched the pill
07:29 - Novo deal economics
14:29 - MEDVi scandal and wild west of GLP-1s
18:19 - Peptides going mainstream
25:57 - July FDA meeting
31:27 - TRT = billion-dollar opportunity
35:31 - Sleep Sleep Sleep Sleep
37:26 - Friction in getting diagnosed
38:04 - The CPAP supply chain problem
39:17 - How Hims could revolutionize sleep
43:04 - Eucalyptus and going global
46:16 - Cruise engineers (wtf are they building?!)
50:25 - Short interest still out of control
55:05 - Voting control and insider selling
59:46 - Valuation and Q1 warning signs
01:03:48 - Should Hims buy a teletherapy?
01:07:12 - Why Maris is long Hims 🔥
Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only. Nothing discussed should be considered financial, investment, or legal advice. Always consult with a qualified professional before making financial decisions.
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