In the first half of the show Italian philosopher and author Federico Campagna joins the show to discuss his most recent book, Otherworlds: Mediterranean Lessons on Escaping History. Federico outlines the role of imagination in shaping our reality, the censored histories of those who refused an oppressive reality not because they denied its existence but because they denied its acceptability, and built worlds to shield, shelter, survive and in some cases thrive in some of history's most difficult times. Federico also discusses how myths and nostalgia work for and against us, the nuance missing in an ever-narrowing world view which buries and censors the possibilities of both the past and the present. Next up, Mickey sits down with media professor and author Bill Yousman to talk about disinformation, looking back on his essay for the State of the Free Press 2025 to contextualize where we are now, and where we could be headed with some prescriptive actions. Bill outlines the importance of not falling back on the lazy but easy path of censorship in combating disinformation, and the importance of well-funded public media and education in bolstering ourselves against the tsunamis of nonsense.

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