What happens when life hits you from every angle? Norman “Hot Rod” Rodriguez joins me for a warm, honest, and often funny conversation about divorce, separation from his children, serious back problems, struggles during his Navy career, and the moments that nearly made him quit.

Norman shares how his children, faith, and a change in mindset helped him keep moving forward. His story reminds us that there are no wins and losses—only wins and lessons. And when my daughter unexpectedly FaceTimes me during the recording, the conversation becomes even more personal and memorable.