#164: Today, we're joined again by friend of the pod Antonia Cereijido, host of the LAist Studios podcast Imperfect Paradise, to talk about Part 3 of their latest series: “Nury & the Secret Tapes.”

It’s an exclusive, behind-the-scenes look at the L.A. City Council tape scandal that rocked Los Angeles, and became national news, a year ago.

On the secretly recorded tapes, then-L.A. City Council President Nury Martinez, council members Gil Cedillo, Kevin De León and labor leader Ron Herrera talk candidly, making racist and demeaning comments about colleagues, Black political power, Indigenous people, and even a councilman's child.

In the latest episode, Antonia presses Nury about the racist and hurtful things she said on the tapes.

Voices heard in this episode: Nury Martinez, former L.A. City Council President; L.A. City Councilmember Marqueece Harris-Dawson; Tanya K. Hernández, comparative race law expert at Fordham University School of Law; Manuel Pastor, professor of Sociology and American Studies & Ethnicity at USC.