From freezing temperatures and fire codes, to angry emails and fractured relationship, working at a church on Christmas eve is... something.

In this episode we sat down with 4 ex-pastors to hear their stories of working in a church on Christmas Eve and a bit of what Christmas Eve looks like now that they don't work in ministry.

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This episode is edited and produced by Fohrm Studio.

The song in this episode is "Gypsy Queen" by RÓSA.

What happens when you leave your job in ministry with no plan?

In this episode we sat down with Charlie Sells (Founder of Clarity Over Everything) to chat about:

This episode is sponsored by Launch Point. Take your free quiz at ministrytomarketplace.co/holyshift

This episode is edited and produced by Fohrm Studio.

The song in this episode is "Gypsy Queen" by RÓSA.

What if ministry is keeping you from exploring parts of your self?

In this episode Collin sat down with Ben Crandall, the owner of  Banner Coffee Co in Arroyo Grande, California.

This episode was a deep dive on entrepreneurship. We covered:

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This episode is edited and produced by Fohrm Studio.

The song in this episode is "Gypsy Queen" by RÓSA.

What happens when a pastor starts making cocktail content in his free time?

In this episode we sat down with Jordan Hughes (@highproofpreacher on Instagram) to chat through:

This episode is edited and produced by Fohrm Studio.

The song in this episode is "Gypsy Queen" by RÓSA.

What if ministry is making your hair fall out?

In this episode we sat down with Kaitlynn Wagner (former pastor at Christ Church of the Valley) to talk through:

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This episode is edited and produced by Fohrm Studio.

The song in this episode is "Gypsy Queen" by RÓSA.

What does pastoring have to do with pop punk and product marketing?

In this episode Collin sat down with Anthony Pierri (FletchPMM, Good Hangs) to chat through:

- Anthony's journey into (and out of) ministry,

- tech product marketing,

- being an Enneagram 3,

- and the unexpected ministry of Good Hangs (@goodhangsband)

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This episode was edited and produced by Fohrm Studio.

The songs featured in this episode are "Gypsy Queen" by RÓSA and "Shoot Our Way Out" by Good Hangs

In this episode Collin sits down with his friend Andres Rodriguez (former pastor at the Village Church turned real estate appraiser) to talk about:

- performance and power dynamics in ministry,

- in groups and out groups,

- and finding community after ministry

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This episode was edited and produced by Fohrm Studio.

The song featured in this episode is "Gypsy Queen" by RÓSA

Grief takes time.

In this episode we sat down with Matthias Barker (Therapist and Co-Founder of The Trauma Institute) to talk about:

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This episode was edited and produced by Fohrm Studio.

The song featured in this episode is "Gypsy Queen" by RÓSA

What if leaving ministry meant you could be your true self?

In this episode, Collin sits down with Cass Curry (Account Executive at LinkedIn) to talk about:

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This episode of Holy Shift was edited and produced by Fohrm Studio.

The song featured in the episode is "Gypsy Queen" by RÓSA

What do you do when your loyalty isn't to your job anymore?

In this episode Collin sits down with Conner Smith (Account Executive at Limble) to talk about:

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This episode of Holy Shift was edited and produced by Fohrm Studio.

The song featured in the episode is "Gypsy Queen" by RÓSA