In this episode of Sunday Reverb, host Joe Brooks records on-site from the new church building as major renovations are underway. He sits down for a spontaneous conversation with Chris Sabes, drummer for the worship team and owner of Refined Construction, the company leading the demolition and remodel of the space.

The featured song is “Holy Spirit (You Are Welcome Here)” by Bryan and Katie Torwalt. Joe and Chris reflect on what it means to prepare room—both physically and spiritually—for the Holy Spirit to move.

They also discuss 2 Corinthians 3:17: “Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom,” tying together worship, work, and God’s ongoing transformation of their church body.