My good friend Mike and I recorded this episode in Phoenix shortly after leaving California.  We talk about our time in the service, living as a civilian again, and problems in our culture today.  Enjoy!

Zac is an awesome guy I met in Santa Cruz through the Couchsurfing app.  He had flown into San Francisco and bought a van so he could explore and surf his way down to Mexico.   We recorded in Santa Barbara & Venice Beach California.   The first 1 hr 25 mins is pretty serious so we added a few more goofing around at the end.   We discuss guns, drugs, our night at the comedy store and much more.   Enjoy!

Stitched together a few short segments for this episode.  Talked about loneliness on the road, the comedy store and buying reefer from scantily clad Jesus freaks.   Happy 2019!

Made it to California!  Happy Holidays