“...because the idea of purity tests is to divide. It’s to divide. To make in and out--that is the only purpose…But Jesus’ point was always the relationship, his purpose was always the relationship…”

“...the idea [that] God is love is true in a way that I can play with it, I can work with it, I can push it around and it doesn’t change. But the more that I grow, the more that I learn, the more that I change, the more that I maybe even transform in certain ways, that truth isn’t stagnate, it doesn’t stay in one place, it grows with me…”    

Kyle and Joe talk about their break, life during Covid and these tumultuous times, and what it means to try to speak something helpful into the world right now... all to the lovely sounds of Kyle's backyard bird sanctuary.

Joe wonders how Christianity fits into his life right now and it reminds him of a favorite flash-bulb memory.

Kyle reflects on the nature of mourning and our need for it in these times.

“God is moving and active with the poor in spirit, the lowly, the humble. God is with and for those who mourn because they are the ones in touch with reality. Wake up... Of course they are mourning in the streets--and still are today."

We could all use mercy right now. Jesus taught that God's mercy was abundant, but simply receiving it might be trickier than we'd like to think.

We are living through heavy times... It's hard to know what to say, or more importantly, what to do.

How are we to move forward in a world that can seem so divided? How can we heal the divisions? 

Joe's take on "the why" of this podcast.