Hopping the Fence

Show Notes

Maria’s Instagram @rattsarina

Maria’s website 

Rat Plastic Wood 

Hamilton Christian Fellowship 

Rat Plastic Wood at The University of Waterloo Gallery 

FASTWÜRMS 

“Unisex House of Bangs” @ Zsa Zsa  

Woodlouse Hunter Spiders 

Woodlouse / Potato Bugs 

University of Waterloo Gallery

Environmental Guidelines for Museums 

Potting Soil

Earwigs

Carnivorous plants 

Bisexual lighting 

Red/Blue Plantlights 

Full Spectrum Light

Blader Runner lighting 

Sourkraut 

Pickling 

MiracleGrow 

Peat Moss 

For the Love of Peat - 99% Invisible 

Kimchi 

Covid Kimchi 

Mennonite 

Jacob Irish and Julie Hall

DIY - Do It Yourself 

Pleasure Dome 

McMaster University - Studio Art 

HAVN - Hamilton Audio Visual Node 

Sisyphus 

Home Depot 

How to build a wall 

Pedigree / Provenance 

Settler Colonialism 

Imposter Syndrome 

Abstract art origins in kindergarden 

Thanks for listening to Hopping the Fence, a podcast dedicated to the fringes of the Canadian art scene. 

If you have an artist that you would like to hear interviewed, would like to correct / fact check a past episode, or would like to chat, feel free to send me a message on Instagram @hoppingthefence, or by email at [email protected].  Thanks to the OCAD Student Union for your financial support. Thank you to all of our Patreons for your ongoing support. It truly does help me avoid burnout and keeps this podcast rolling. If you would like to support Hopping the Fence please visit our Patreon to subscribe. Check out the show notes for more details. If you can’t donate, no worries. Thanks for taking the time to listen. 

Audio editing for Hopping the Fence by Emily Reimer. Original artwork by Alex Gregory, and original music by Jessica Price Eisner. Transcription by Jessica Price Eisner. 

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Rebecca Payne is a queer rural artist who is trained in painting, drawing and printmaking. They have an appreciation for banal and liminal spaces and practice sitting with fleeting moments that—in one year, one day, one minute—will pass and may never happen again the same way. Their current work explores transitional themes of experiencing loneliness, awkwardness, and the atmospheres within banal spaces.

Our conversation was recorded in Hamilton within Treaty 3 territory on the ancestral land of the Haudenosaunee and Anishinaabe nations under the Dish With One Spoon wampum agreement.

Show Notes 

@laundrymatcowgrrl 

Rebecca’s work 

Rebecca’s shop 

University of Guelph Studio Art 

Cross-hatching 

Monet’s Haystacks 

Cezanne’s Mountains 

Nom de plume 

Penname 

Alter-ego

Jonah’s HTF episode  

Cole Road Projects 

Costco 

Grants for people outside Toronto 

Wish You Were Here magnet 

Camp 

David Shrigley 

Ruby Etc 

Filthy Rat Bag 

Awards For Good Boys 

TERF Trans Exclusionary Feminist 

Salty 

Distillery District

Podcast Reccomendation 

Sandy and Nora’s Podcast Confronting systemic, institutional racism 

Thanks for listening to Hopping the Fence, a podcast dedicated to the fringes of the Canadian art scene.

If you have an artist that you would like to hear interviewed, would like to correct / fact check a past episode, or would like to chat, feel free to send me a message on Instagram @hoppingthefence, or by email at [email protected]. Thanks to the OCAD Student Union for your financial support. Thank you to all of our Patreons for your ongoing support. It truly does help me avoid burnout and keeps this podcast rolling. If you would like to support Hopping the Fence please visit our Patreon to subscribe. Check out the show notes for more details. If you can’t donate, no worries. Thanks for taking the time to listen.

Audio editing for Hopping the Fence by Emily Reimer. Original artwork by Alex Gregory, and original music by Jessica Price Eisner.

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Maya Ben David (MBD) is a Toronto-based Jewish-Iranian artist. Working in video, installation and performance, she creates worlds and characters that aid her ongoing exploration of anthropomorphism, cosplay and performative personas.

Our conversation was recorded in Hamilton within Treaty 3 territory on the ancestral land of the Haudenosaunee and Anishinaabe nations under the Dish With One Spoon wampum agreement.

This episode of Hopping the Fence contains discussions of antisemitism and the Holocaust.

Show Notes 

@thebropercent 

Maya’s YouTube 

Maya’s Patreon 

The Jiggle Physics Manifesto

Anime 

Fanfiction 

Bimbo

Himbo 

Thembo 

glowing cursed cleeve

Air Canada Girl 

r/FineArt

Weird Art Group 

That REALLY Weird Art 

Weird and Dark Art 

Dream Core ART Alliance

Fantasy and Fairy Art 

Jess Price Eisner

Claudia Slogar Rick 

Snake Girl's Hyperbolic Time Chamber (A Jewish tale on intergenerational trauma)

Iain Soder 

Popcorn Ceiling Maiden 

Serenading the popcorn ceiling in my apartment

Annie’s Song by John Denver 

Joseph and the Technicolour Dreamcoat 

G-D Speaks to Snake Moses 

Samara Contemporary 

Mold Maid

Vore 

Kiby

Noah 

Jewish humour 

The Holocaust 

WWII Crank Siren 

Grotesque 

Jonathan Ben David

Ryan Trecartin

Chop Chop, Lollipop 

Scrump Runts: A Slice of Their Secret Life 

Tough Guy Mountain

Ceramic egg 

I made a centaur 

Centaur Costume at Gibralter Point 

Ginny D Centaur Book 

Etsy

MLM schemes 

Curator 

Artist Curator Met Gala Meme 

Podcast Reccomendation 

Missing & Murdered: Finding Cleo

Thanks for listening to Hopping the Fence, a podcast dedicated to the fringes of the Canadian art scene.

If you have an artist that you would like to hear interviewed, would like to correct / fact check a past episode, or would like to chat, feel free to send me a message on Instagram @hoppingthefence, or by email at [email protected]. Thanks to the OCAD Student Union for your financial support. Thank you to all of our Patreons for your ongoing support. It truly does help me avoid burnout and keeps this podcast rolling. If you would like to support Hopping the Fence please visit our Patreon to subscribe. Check out the show notes for more details. If you can’t donate, no worries. Thanks for taking the time to listen.

Audio editing for Hopping the Fence by Emily Reimer. Original artwork by Alex Gregory, and original music by Jessica Price Eisner.

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Daura Campos is a Latinx, self-taught, lens-based artist and curator based in Belo Horizonte, Brazil. Her photographic practise challenges traditional image-making processes, revealing itself as more than a meta-commentary with a subtext that prompts broader conversations on the implications of existing in a dissident body.

Her What the Luck series was awarded by Adolescent and exhibited in Experimental Photo Festival, Visual Space, Make Room and has been displayed on billboards in New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, and Toronto. Earlier works have been published globally on Curated by Girls, Container Love, The Soon Project, and others.

Our conversation was recorded in Hamilton within Treaty 3 territory on the ancestral land of the Haudenosaunee and Anishinaabe nations under the Dish With One Spoon wampum agreement.

Show Notes 

@daurismo

Daura’s work 

Orange skies and pollution 

Shutter and aperture 

Nan Goldin

Laurence Philomene

Mentor Petrija Dos 

Tumblr 

Roundtable Residency 

Model Luiza Vita 

Hamilton the Musical 

GatherTown 

Slant Projects 

Theodor Ussay

BIPOC Photography Mentorship 

Heather Morton 

Gallery 44 

Podcast Recommendation

The Profiles on Practice

Thanks for listening to Hopping the Fence, a podcast dedicated to the fringes of the Canadian art scene.

If you have an artist that you would like to hear interviewed, would like to correct / fact check a past episode, or would like to chat, feel free to send me a message on Instagram @hoppingthefence, or by email at [email protected]. Thanks to the OCAD Student Union for your financial support. Thank you to all of our Patreons for your ongoing support. It truly does help me avoid burnout and keeps this podcast rolling. If you would like to support Hopping the Fence please visit our Patreon to subscribe. Check out the show notes for more details. If you can’t donate, no worries. Thanks for taking the time to listen.

Audio editing for Hopping the Fence by Emily Reimer. Original artwork by Alex Gregory, and original music by Jessica Price Eisner.

Thank you so much, bye!

Xiao Han is an artist and curator based in Wuhan and Saskatoon. Using photography, Han’s research-creation projects investigate diaspora, identity, gender issues and cross-cultural interpretation. As an independent curator, Han has curated numerous exhibitions collectively with artists and art institutions in Canada and China. Han's public art "Yee Clun’s Lost Story'' was permanently installed, in the summer of 2017, in Regina Arts Park. This project reflects the lost story of immigrant and restaurant owner Yee Clun in Regina in 1924 when he challenged the racist "Saskatchewan's White Women's Labour Law ''.

Xiao Han (Madam X) is an artist, curator and writer. With photography, Han’s artwork focuses on sexual exploration through the BDSM culture. Han organizes an online-based community with BDSM-Art activities. With this community, Han does interviews and story writing to share experiences of unique interests.

Our conversation was recorded in Hamilton within Treaty 3 territory on the ancestral land of the Haudenosaunee and Anishinaabe nations under the Dish With One Spoon wampum agreement.

Show Notes 

 Xiao’s work 

 TRU BA Visual Arts Photography  

 Meera Singh 

 The One 

 Yee Clun: The Lost Story 

 Cindy Sherman 

 Gregory Crewdson 

 Lost Stories Project 

 Value Village

 Ronald Rudin

 OCAD MFA Criticism and Curation Practice

 CARFAC

 Madam X Conversations Blog

 Nobuyoshi Araki

 Rope Art Shibari

 BDSM 

 BDSM Candles / Wax Play 

 LGBTQ

 Abuse vs BDSM 

 Foreplay 

 Forbidden Fruit 

 Foucault 

 Pinhole camera 

 Jon Rafman 

Emma Watson Body Pillow (she wasn’t naked my bad!) 

Anime Body Pillows 

 Pillow princess 

 Submissive Feminism 

Podcast Recommendation 

 Care to Explain Yourself? Code Switch

Thanks for listening to Hopping the Fence, a podcast dedicated to the fringes of the Canadian art scene.

If you have an artist that you would like to hear interviewed, would like to correct / fact check a past episode, or would like to chat, feel free to send me a message on Instagram @hoppingthefence, or by email at [email protected]. Thanks to the OCAD Student Union for your financial support. Thank you to all of our Patreons for your ongoing support. It truly does help me avoid burnout and keeps this podcast rolling. If you would like to support Hopping the Fence please visit our Patreon to subscribe. Check out the show notes for more details. If you can’t donate, no worries. Thanks for taking the time to listen.

Audio editing for Hopping the Fence by Emily Reimer. Original artwork by Alex Gregory, and original music by Jessica Price Eisner.

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Jocelyne Junker is a Métis artist born in Saskatchewan. Her practice explores how photography and painting can become entangled in performative gestures that affect the formulation of self-identity. Through photography, she questions representation and engages with constructions of identity in the public sphere by creating a visual language that co-opts media and challenges its original context. She received her BFA from Emily Carr University of Art + Design, in 2018. She’s currently on the board of Access Gallery and resides in the unceded territories of the xʷməθkʷəyəm (Musqueam), Sḵwxwú7mesh (Squamish) and səlilwətaɬ (Tsleil- Waututh) Nations.

Our conversation was recorded in Hamilton within Treaty 3 territory on the ancestral land of the Haudenosaunee and Anishinaabe nations under the Dish With One Spoon wampum agreement.

This episode of Hopping the Fence contains use of the dated term “split personality”. See the show notes for an explainer on Dissociative Identity Disorder.

Show Notes 

@jocelynejunker 

Evergreen Cultural Centre 

Revisions: Emerging Creators Incubator 

Rug tufting 

Rug tufted frame, fabric self portrait  

Pagliacci

Watchmen “But Doctor, I Am Pagliacci” meme 

Hilarious World of Depression theme 

Robin Williams (full quote)

The Nerdist 

Inside 

Just for Laughs 

Just for Laughs NorthWest

Make Happy 

Hannah Gadsby 

Tumblr 

Prince Albert

Saskatoon 

Métis Nation 

Never Mind the Buzzcocks 

“split personality” Dissociative Identity Disorder (D.I.D)

Yggdrasil - Tree of Life 

QI with Stephen Fry

Buzznet 

Fall Out Boy 

The Academy Is 

Cobra Starship 

365 Project

Jason Mantzoukas

Franc Gallery 

Rembrandt 

The Artist Beheads Her Muse

Fangirl 

Emily Carr Photo Program 

Silkscreen 

Alexander McQueen at The Met

TikTok @gosslyn

Bo Burnham reaction spiral 

John Water’s Absentee Landlord at The Walker 

Wolfgang Tilmans 

Low brow 

Remai Modern 

Rauschenberg

Podcast Recommendation

Abraxas, Guardian of the Universe: LIVE! How did this get made? ​​

Thanks for listening to Hopping the Fence, a podcast dedicated to the fringes of the Canadian art scene.

If you have an artist that you would like to hear interviewed, would like to correct / fact check a past episode, or would like to chat, feel free to send me a message on Instagram @hoppingthefence, or by email at [email protected]. Thanks to the OCAD Student Union for your financial support. Thank you to all of our Patreons for your ongoing support. It truly does help me avoid burnout and keeps this podcast rolling. If you would like to support Hopping the Fence please visit our Patreon to subscribe. Check out the show notes for more details. If you can’t donate, no worries. Thanks for taking the time to listen.

Audio editing for Hopping the Fence by Emily Reimer. Original artwork by Alex Gregory, and original music by Jessica Price Eisner.

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Adrien Crossman is a queer and non-binary white settler artist, educator and curator currently residing on the traditional territory of the Haudenosaunee and Anishinaabe peoples in Hamilton, Ontario. Crossman holds an MFA in Visual Art from the University of Windsor (2018), and a BFA in Integrated Media from OCAD University (2012). Their practice explores the affective qualities of queerness, and they are interested in the liminality between the digital and the physical, considering how the terms trans* and non-binary apply to media as well as gender. Crossman is a co-founder and co-runs the online arts publication off centre and is an Assistant Professor in the School of the Arts at McMaster University.

Our conversation was recorded in Hamilton within Treaty 3 territory on the ancestral land of the Haudenosaunee and Anishinaabe nations under the Dish With One Spoon wampum agreement.

Show Notes

@fakechildhood

Femme Art Review profile

Adriene’s work

McMaster Studio Art

Rebecca’s thesis show

Videofag The Aesthetics of Failure May 2013

Off Centre

Luke Maddaford

Alex Rondeau

Between Pheasants

Emily Reimer Hopping the Fence audio editor

LEFT Contemporary run by Luke Maddaford

Ed Video 2021 Workshops

Natalie King

The Beaver

The Henhouse

The Organ

“The Henhouse” print

But I’m a Cheerleader

The Lesbian Bar Project (USA)

Queer Mug

Clifton Hill

Teletubbies Instagram

Ban on Spongebob and Teletubbies

Triangle as a queer symbol

Halberstam Spongebob Queer Failure

Rebecca Sugar

Steven Universe

Adventure Time

NTFs

Glitch Art

Hito Steyerl

Oliver Laric

Lavender Culture

Gender Trouble

No Future

Cruising Utopia José Esteban Muñoz

Heaven is a Place on Earth

Podcast Recommendation

A Bunny in the Front Seat Episode 33, OFTV (One From the Vaults)

Thanks for listening to Hopping the Fence, a podcast dedicated to the fringes of the Canadian art scene.

If you have an artist that you would like to hear interviewed, would like to correct / fact check a past episode, or would like to chat, feel free to send me a message on Instagram @hoppingthefence, or by email at [email protected]. Thanks to the OCAD Student Union for your financial support. Thank you to all of our Patreons for your ongoing support. It truly does help me avoid burnout and keeps this podcast rolling. If you would like to support Hopping the Fence please visit our Patreon to subscribe. Check out the show notes for more details. If you can’t donate, no worries. Thanks for taking the time to listen.

Audio editing for Hopping the Fence by Emily Reimer. Original artwork by Alex Gregory, and original music by Jessica Price Eisner.

Thank you so much, bye!

Show Notes 

Lucia’s work 

Lucia’s MFA thesis 

Rachel Whiteread 

Dungeons and Dragons Barbarian 

Azza El Siddique 

“Vessel”

“The Void” 

Pinch pot 

RAW Gardiner Museum

Dr. Sequoia Miller interview with Azza El Siddique 

Dori Millerson 

Textile Museum 

Strike at Toronto Nestle Factory

Phallic 

Ai Wei Wei 

Dropping a Han Dynasty Urn (1995)

Catharsis 

Erin Manning - The Politics of Touch 

Claudia Slogar Rick

Jessica Price Eisner AKA @meagerbeaver 

Anything can be an album cover 

Thanks for listening to Hopping the Fence, a podcast dedicated to the fringes of the Canadian art scene.

If you have an artist that you would like to hear interviewed, would like to correct / fact check a past episode, or would like to chat, feel free to send me a message on Instagram @hoppingthefence, or by email at [email protected]. Thanks to the OCAD Student Union for your financial support. Thank you to all of our Patreons for your ongoing support. It truly does help me avoid burnout and keeps this podcast rolling. If you would like to support Hopping the Fence please visit our Patreon to subscribe. Check out the show notes for more details. If you can’t donate, no worries. Thanks for taking the time to listen.

Audio editing for Hopping the Fence by Emily Reimer. Original artwork by Alex Gregory, and original music by Jessica Price Eisner.

Thank you so much, bye!

Show Notes 

@cupofnatcha

No Fixed Address

Waveland 

Drake 

The Weeknd 

The British Invasion

BTS

K-Pop 

MuchMusic

Markham, Ontario  

Sid Lee

We the North 

Warner 

Universal 

David Bowie 

Mark Goodman 

MTV

Black Lives Matter 

CBC

Bell Media 

Vice and Ontario Creates Research Report 

James Cordan Carpool Karaoke 

Hot Ones 

Corridor Crew 

F1 Drive to Survive

Chris Brown 

Kanye West

R. Kelly 

Escape 

How Bad is Your Spotify? 

Thanks for listening to Hopping the Fence, a podcast dedicated to the fringes of the Canadian art scene.

If you have an artist that you would like to hear interviewed, would like to correct / fact check a past episode, or would like to chat, feel free to send me a message on Instagram @hoppingthefence, or by email at [email protected]. Thanks to the OCAD Student Union for your financial support. Thank you to all of our Patreons for your ongoing support. It truly does help me avoid burnout and keeps this podcast rolling. If you would like to support Hopping the Fence please visit our Patreon to subscribe. Check out the show notes for more details. If you can’t donate, no worries. Thanks for taking the time to listen.

Audio editing for Hopping the Fence by Emily Reimer. Original artwork by Alex Gregory, and original music by Jessica Price Eisner.

Thank you so much, bye!

Show Notes

@iamlychek

Maddie’s work 

Nipple shirt 

Ed Video 

Galerie FLUT

HFK Bremen 

Healing Arts Dinner Collective statement about boycott of Koffler Digital 

Tamil Archive 

You Spent Thousand of Dollars to Draw Vaginas and Make Soft-Core Porn

@sapphicpangea 

Drawing on Objects

Racquel Rowe

Feelings

Paula 

Friends and Lovers 

connection_found 

Yoko Ono Cut Piece 

Carolee Schneemann

Hannah Wilke 

Cut Piece After Yoko Ono 

Abby Nowakowski 

Mimema (Meme show with Ed Video)

Bernie Sanders Meme 

LMAOIDK.com

Maddie’s Stickers 

Podcast Recommendation 

Episode 3 Star House, Star People, One From the Vaults

Thanks for listening to Hopping the Fence, a podcast dedicated to the fringes of the Canadian art scene.

If you have an artist that you would like to hear interviewed, would like to correct / fact check a past episode, or would like to chat, feel free to send me a message on Instagram @hoppingthefence, or by email at [email protected]. Thanks to the OCAD Student Union for your financial support. Thank you to all of our Patreons for your ongoing support. It truly does help me avoid burnout and keeps this podcast rolling. If you would like to support Hopping the Fence please visit our Patreon to subscribe. Check out the show notes for more details. If you can’t donate, no worries. Thanks for taking the time to listen.

Audio editing for Hopping the Fence by Emily Reimer. Original artwork by Alex Gregory, and original music by Jessica Price Eisner.

Thank you so much, bye!