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Greetings boils and ghouls, and welcome back to Horror Business, the podcast that’s as hot as love. We have jam packed slam bang of an episode for this week and we know you’re gonna love it.
This episode we did a retrospective of the first three Phantasm films, and were joined by Josh Alvarez of Cinepunx to help us dissect this classic franchise. In addition to Josh being on Horror Business to talk about the first three movies, we’re actually going to carry the conversation over to Cinepunx later this week to discuss the final two films in the Phantasm franchise. I told you we had a treat for you guys.
We begin by talking about what we’ve seen or done recently in the realm of horror. We talk about the Brooklyn Horror Film Festival, Monster Mania Con, Josh seeing Halloween III for the first time, and Josh having a semi run in with the great Bill Mosely in Texas.
Naturally we begin with the first Phantasm film. We discuss our first encounter with the film, how we’ve come to appreciate it, the very unique narrative and style of the film, and how it remains unlike anything else to this day. Of note we focus on the performance of Angus Scrimm as the Tall Man and the films inconsistent narrative as virtue to keep the viewer unsettled.
The second film in the franchise is discussed next. Amongst other things we talk about the uneven tone of the movie in that it seems to be back and forth between horror and action, the film suffering from the shortcomings of both late 80s action and late 80s horror, Reggie’s weird libido, and the unnecessary opening sequence.
Next we tackle the third film in the franchise. We talk about the continuing feeling of ‘is this a dream?’ throughout these movies, Coscarelli’s tendency to be a bit ‘on the nose’ about everything, the unevenness of tone yet again in this film, Reggie’s continuing tendency to push the boundaries between decent and indecent when it comes to sex, and the future of the Phantasm franchise after this film.
For the conclusion of our Phantasm retrospective check out the upcoming episode of Cinepunx at www.cinepunx.com. Follow them on twitter and Instagram at @cinepunx.
As always thanks to everyone and anyone who checked this episode out, or shared a tweet/shared a post on FB/gave us love by recommending us to someone. Thanks to Josh not only for the theme song but also for being gracious enough to appear on this episode and record it at his house. We love you forever for listening. Any questions, comments, suggestions for movies and guests, or if you yourself want to join us for a movie viewing or even an episode, can be sent to [email protected]. Huge thanks to Jeff Thibault for getting us the Robert Englund and Bill Moseley bumpers. Thanks to those two as well for recording the bumpers. Thanks always to Justin Miller and Doug Tilley for their technical contributions, Mike Smaczylo for the awesome fliers, and also once again thanks to Josh “Bad Larry” Alvarez for the theme song, Follow us on Twitter at @thehorrorbiz666, like us on Facebook, and remember to rate, review, and subscribe to us on ITunes! Happy Halloween!
Episode XI: Honey, Put That Found Footage Back Where You Found It
Greetings miscreants, and welcome back to Horror Business, the podcast that wants you to keep filming NO MATTER WHAT. We have a powerhouse of an episode in store for you, and as always your inexplicable decision to keep listening to us warms our weird hearts, because without you we are shouting nonsense into the void. Even with you it’s likely we are doing just that!
This episode we wrestle with the concept of found footage and documentary style horror films, specifically 2013’s Final Prayer (also released under the alternative title The Borderlands) and the 1992 BBC special Ghostwatch. Our goal was to figure out the appeal of “found footage” horror movies and what makes a good found footage film versus a bad one.
We open up the episode by talking about some films we had seen recently, including the 2014’s Clown, 2016’s Don’t Breathe, and 2016’s I Am Not A Serial Killer. You all get a wonderful little history lesson of the Lehigh Valley’s oldest drive in theatre, the illustrious Becky’s Drive In. We continue by discussing Blair Witch, which we were not one hundred percent (or even fifty percent) crazy about. Sorry, Blair Witch people. Finally, wrapping up the “what we’ve been doing lately” segment is Liam’s brief summary of his experiences at the Bruce Campbell Horror Film Festival and our Wednesday night outing to Brooklyn for the Miskatonic Institute event with Jack Ketchum (more info on that can be found here).
Our first film of this episode is Final Prayer. We begin the discussion on this film by giving a brief summary of what “found footage” means, and the methods and history behind the genre. We discuss the weaknesses of such a technique and the potential shortcomings of employing such a technique. The way the filmmakers of Final Prayer get around the “why am I watching this?” question is discussed. The use of “documentary” style camera setups in creating tension and fear is discussed, as is the lack of a Cloverfield moment i.e. a dramatic and powerful yet improbable reveal of the monster. As Liam aptly states, “if you have the money for a giant payoff in a found footage movie, just make a movie.” We talk about the British subgenre of horror focusing on some ancient pagan evil re-emerging into modern society, the role of faith and Christian anxiety in this movie, and the way complex philosophical ideas in the church are presented in this movie. We finish up our discussion of Final Prayer by talking about how England and English culture is almost a character in itself in the movie, which exceeds in a way that the “it’s buried on an ancient Indian burial ground!” trope in American horror movie often fails to do.
The second film in our episode is the 1992 BBC special Ghostwatch. We begin this segment by explaining how Ghostwatch differs from the typical found footage movie in that it doesn’t present itself as footage from a missing party but rather a TV special that bites off more than it can chew. The interactive nature of the original special and how that nature lent it a feel of authenticity is discussed. The similarity to Orson Welles’ famous radio broadcast of War Of The Worlds is discussed, with the opinion given that this production was actually far more realistic than that broadcast. We talk about the context of the special and how it was largely unprecedented in it’s nature and how that made it that much more believable, as well as the “prankish” nature of the special at times.
As always thanks to everyone and anyone who checked this episode out, or shared a tweet/shared a post on FB/gave us love by recommending us to someone. We love you forever for listening. Any questions, comments, suggestions for movies and guests, or if you yourself want to join us for a movie viewing or even an episode, can be sent to [email protected]. Big thanks to new member of the Cinepunx team, Jamie Burchardt who edited all the audio for this episode, our first episode not edited by Liam! Thanks again to Justin Miller and Doug Tilley for their technical contributions, Mike Smaczylo for the awesome fliers, and also thanks to Josh “Foghorn Leghorn” Alvarez for the theme song, and HUGE thank you to anyone who retweeted us or shared something on Facebook that we posted. Follow us on Twitter at @thehorrorbiz666, like us on Facebook at facebook.com/thehorrorbiz66, and remember to rate, review, and subscribe to us on ITunes! Until next time…thanks!
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