Today's episode was recorded while a massive thunderstorm was churning over Joey's home, which causes a couple of technical glitches on his end. No matter, the show must go on! The Tofu Trio immediately dives into horseback riding and whether or not vegans should actually ride horses. Vanessa shares stories from her pre-vegan days when she rode horses and participated in show jumping, and she describes what it really means to break a horse. Jon then delivers his signature ChatGPT moment by asking the AI why notable vegan Joaquin Phoenix agreed to ride a horse for the movie "Napoleon." This revelation leads Vanessa right into a rant about why another celebrity vegan, Lewis Hamilton, recently raised her ire. After a brief detour where Jon defends Kim Kardashian against Joey and Vanessa's flying daggers, things take a bizarre turn into the world of horse semen. They use the word "semen" so often that you might get pregnant just listening to the episode. Thankfully, they eventually shut up about equine fluids to discuss Billie Eilish's recent controversy regarding her claim that non-vegans cannot be true animal lovers. It's an episode packed with thunder, livestock, and questionable fluids, so buckle up and try to keep your lunch down.

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Vegans Talking Shit is hosted by Joey Di Girolamo, Jon Missirlian, and Vanessa Silva. Main podcast image artwork by Diego Orellana. Theme song "Flying" by TrackTribe. Visit @veganstalkingshit on Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube and @vegans.talking.sh on TikTok. Send questions, comments, and topic ideas to [email protected], and you may get your email read during the show.